Filter to 1-star and note how many reviews are direct copies of each other - many referencing that the Obamas are executive producers.

  • mateomaui@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    11 months ago

    from the copy and pasted review:

    Situations like these would bring you together, not force you apart.

    Did any of these assholes pay attention to their own behavior during the pandemic?

  • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    11 months ago

    Not even knowing that the Obamas had anything to do with it (like it matters at all?), I thought I was a refreshingly well-done movie in a genre I enjoy. Haters gonna hate.

  • prole@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    For a few years now, I’ve purposely sought out movies and TV shows on RT and Metacritic with very high critic ratings, and super low user ratings.

    The only time this really happens is if reviews are brigaded. If the user reviews were honest, it’s pretty rare that you’d see more than 20-30% difference between critic and user score (MAX). So when you see a critic score of 95%, and user score of 1.8/10, then I know I’m in for a good time. Same with games to a lesser degree.

    I’m not even kidding, this is almost always a sure way to find a film or show I enjoy. In fact, I wish they’d introduce a “Controversial” category with things that have a big gap between critic and user scores (though when it goes the other way, that is high user score to super poor critic reviews, it’s almost always PureFlix-style Christian propaganda garbage).

    • phillaholic@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      Sound of Freedom Comes to mind as a recently brigaded film. Trailer came up for me on Prime and I didn’t realize what it was. I don’t care how embellished the story is, what based on a true story isn’t? But Jim Caviezel‘s acting in the trailer is so bad I can’t imagine sitting through it.

    • el_abuelo@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Can you give some examples? I’d love to discover some gems.

      Word of warning - I usually find that movies on rotten tomatoes with low critic scores and high audience scores are hitting the midweek sweet spot for me. Low cerebral requirement, high distraction. If you get me.

      • prole@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Literally anything critical of Christianity (or anything that could even be perceived as critical of Christianity, we can’t actually expect them to watch it first).

        I guess I should have kept better track over the years… Let me see if I can find a few.

        An obvious one (video game though) that I can think of off hand is The Last of Us 2. Fantastic game, user scores brigaded everywhere “because gay/trans.”

        In fact, I think The Last of US TV show was review bombed after episode 3. Again, “because gay.”

        The TV show “The Watchmen” was brigaded by users (not sure if they’ve filtered those out, or if the score has been adjusted since, but when it originally aired, user scores were very very low due to review bombing). Anyone who’s seen the show could tell you exactly why that happened.

        Here is an article about it happening to a film about the Armenian Genocide (I haven’t seen the film so I can’t say if it’s good, but I’m sure it doesn’t deserve 1-star)

        https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-promise-film-christian-bale-armenian-genocide-imdb-turkey-oscar-isaac-a7378881.html

        I will have to try to keep track from now on. Sometimes it becomes a cultural moment, like with TLOU, but lots of times it goes under the radar, and a show/movie/game gets quietly fucked over by idiots on the internet who have no interest in even trying the media first.

    • barsoap@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Just to prove you wrong: 32% difference, and yes it’s objectively terrible. Even higher differences can easily occur organically without review bombing when critics happen to be smelling their own farts – which yes is what a definite 100% of those 37% critics who reviewed it positively were doing. I’m seriously worried about their mental state.

      • prole@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Ok… Finding one exception doesn’t really disprove anything. I don’t think I ever claimed that it was a hard rule that every movie fits into. Just a rule a thumb I use to find media that I otherwise might have missed.

      • phillaholic@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Velma was absolutely review bombed. 39% is on par for what it is considering TV has on average higher rankings than movies do.

        • barsoap@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          11 months ago

          Be that as it may it’s still objectively terrible and has more than 30% difference, which was my actual point.

          As to review bombing: It would likely not have caught so much flak if it was stand-alone and not a Scooby Doo reboot – then it would simply vanish alongside other terrible shows that few people ever saw and even fewer rated, with middling score because of course there’s always some people who like something for inexplicable reasons, and without attracting a larger audience those are pretty much the only people who vote because they’re the only ones who care.

          But it had a brand name, it walks all over the original (and I don’t mean race swapping who gives a fuck, I mean thematically), is neither witty nor funny nor insightful so… yeah. No need for an organised campaign to draw ire, and if some racists spent time review-bombing it over the race swap then all the better: They wasted their time as noone likes it anyway.

          • phillaholic@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            11 months ago

            I don’t buy that argument at all. It was entirely about changing the race of the characters and going after white men. Scooby Doo has been rebooted dozens of times and they just exist, they don’t make the originals worse. This new series is not a betrayal to the source material without Scooby anymore than the first time they had a real ghost. I don’t think I finished it, but it is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. The Pilot is, but that’s pretty typical especially with a cast full of non-voice actors recording during Covid. By episode two and three everything is better put together. I found it similar to a lot of current high school shows. Mindy received a ton of hate over it too, and she’s neither the show runner or writer of it. She was running two other shows at the same time so it’s hilarious how many idiots claimed she’s a no talent hack over it.

  • ersatz@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    11 months ago

    Netflix doesn’t give a single shit about online reviews. All they care about is if people are watching it. And the numbers are really good from what I read. But I guess the anti-woke brigade needs to do something to feel like they’re relevant.

    • whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      I don’t think Netflix cares if you’re watching it, as long as you pay your subscription they are happy, and if you don’t watch anything it’s even better!

  • Conyak@lemmy.tf
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    I thought the movie was pretty good. The ending was a bit anticlimactic but maybe that was the point.

  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    It seems extremely trivial for Google to automatically delete all those identical reviews. Why they aren’t doing this? On play store many times they delete my reviews because they think it’s irrelevant to the product, here where they’re all identical?

    • phillaholic@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Name a product Google has that isn’t half assed? They were letting YouTube accounts impersonate account owners in comments at least as recently as last summer.

  • Stretch2m@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    If I was going to leave a review (which I’m not), it would be one star because the ending sucked out loud, not because of any politics.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    11 months ago

    I never heard about this movie before. Now I know it’s a post-apocalyptic movie (love those) made by Sam Esmail (he did Mr. Robot, which was terrific). I guess it also happened to be produced by the Obamas.

    So congratulations, reviewers. You got me interested in seeing a movie I didn’t even know existed.

    • RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 months ago

      i don’t like that a former president is producing a postapoc movie with the way the world is going right now. does he know something we don’t.

  • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    11 months ago

    Obama’s a terrible person who killed tens of thousands of civilians, we should be boycotting any new project he’s involved with. The man ought to be tried for war crimes.

      • spacesatan@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        “That guy is a murderer” “Have you considered that other people are also murderers” what’s your point.

          • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            11 months ago

            That’s a pretty huge leap from “Obama is a garbage human being and doesn’t deserve our support”

            • Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 months ago

              No it’s not. You’re boycotting anyone who killed people right? Why don’t you research some of the companies whose products you consume

                • Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  You’re really going hard on “Obama bad” eh? I’m just wondering where you draw the line. It’s impossible now so why choose this?

            • YeetPics@mander.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              11 months ago

              Have you ever bought a movie ticket, DVD or streaming service with the sole intent to support a movie producer?

      • BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        You really running defense for empire?

        “Name a president who didn’t kill people” isnt the dunk you think it is. Quite the opposite, it just makes the point that the US government is a murder cult and that regardless of who you vote for, you’re still supporting war, murder, and imperialism.

  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    Holy deranged

    Don’t even consider watching this movie!!! Horrible movie. If I could leave zero stars I would. I would say the Obama’s should stick to politics but unfortunately I can’t say that either. Regardless, this review sums it up very well: Zero stars needs to be an option. One reviewer posted an excellent review of this movie, so I had to copy and paste. “If you care about using your time wisely, then avoid this film like the plague. But if you like watching terribly written media, then by all means grab a snack and relax. Because this film is the embodiment of utter garbage. The first, and to me, the greatest red flag is seeing the Obamas as executive producers. The movie just changed far too many times, giving you more questions than answers. Family on the beach, a supposed home invasion, planes crashing, a brat obsessed with Friends, hackers start the end of the world, animals migrate for no apparent reason, son is poisoned by radiation yet no one else is and not to mention the blatant racial themes etc. Just a heaping mess of a pile. None of the characters are developed and slowly turn against each other. Situations like these would bring you together, not force you apart. You’d come to hate a few others, such as the daughter who treats Friends like a god and the other daughter, Ruth, who not only has a spoiled attitude but she assumes things on everyone and also believes you should never trust white people. I wish I were joking. And I quote: “I’m asking for you to remember that if the world falls apart, trust should not be doled out easily to anyone, especially white people.” This had no relevance to the film at all! If this statement was flipped around, watch how things would go. I guess her name “Ruth” is short for ruthless. Because she did not act nice to anyone, not even her own father at times. If they removed her from the script, it would have made this film somewhat better. But not enough to save it. But the fact this made it through production baffles me. Then again, remind yourself of who the executive producers were. As for the “terrorist” act itself, it just isn’t clear which nation is the main driving force of it all. First some Arabic country to then either Korea or China. No idea because this is never answered. Nor were a lot of things. Where was the military? The actual forces of the nation. Apparently they do not exist, so everyone has to fend for themselves. Granted we do live in a technological world, but planes wouldn’t be crashing nor boats intentionally grounding themselves if everything was hacked. Analog exists. Pilots can still operate a plane without working apparatus etc. I’d go on but other reviews capture the level of frustration this “movie” brings the table. It’s bad. At least the daughter got to watch the last episode of Friends, after running off with neither brains nor brawn. Ate a large supply of food and somehow, found a VHS tape that oh so conveniently had Friends. Leaving her family to die. I wonder what she’ll think after the episode is over. Probably happiness, not a care for her family, as a show takes more priority than the end of the world.” If I could give this movie a rating less than one star I would!!!

    • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      This is a perfect simulation of unhinged 90s/00s chain emails your aunt would forward you. All it’s missing is a title like “FW: FW: FW: FW: OPEN, very important!!!” and instructions to forward it to more people.