• dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    It’s not a human thing. Humans are natural empathizers. It’s a capitalism “you’re your job and your khakis” thing.

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      10 months ago

      Theres some tendency towards tribalism that is probably a human thing though right? Wasn’t that the main social unit for humans through prehistory?

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        10 months ago

        Social units existing in the first place requires some level of empathy. Tribalism is just selective empathy, not the absence of it.

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          10 months ago

          That’s because we’re just animals. I would say it this way: humans are not instinctually altruistic but are capable of being rational.

          Which isn’t any better and may actually be worse: we can be rational, but we can also rationalize our instincts.

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          10 months ago

          Capitalism really couldn’t happen to this degree until industrialism became a thing.

          I mean, all you have to do is look at all of recorded human history to see that we’re not an altruistic or compassionate species. A person might be altruistic or compassionate, but people aren’t. If people were, communism would actually work.

          Regardless, tribalism isn’t a good thing because you end up with ‘that persons skin color is different from mine and that’s bad.’

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              10 months ago

              Communism works for small communities, like 2-300 people (which incidentally is the size of the tribes we developed to be part of).

              And while altruistim and compassion have existed, they’re by no means traits in the majority of humans. Humans are selfish, greedy animals. Some of us might realize this and work to be better, but that means we’re fighting our natural tendencies.