Demand for gas down 7% as wind energy increases::undefined

  • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    In 1976, Jimmy Carter put solar panels on the White House.

    First thing Reagan did was have them torn down.

    Reagan, the gift that keeps on giving!

      • MeepsTheBard@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 months ago

        It’s environmental geopolitics 🤷 seeing widespread adoption of a policy that the US (Reagan) ignored get traction in Ireland helps highlight how shortsighted that view was. Considering the US has had a small hand in building the world’s energy supply, it seems at least tangential to remind people why such policies have existed.

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    10 months ago

    Coal is the real enemy, gas is already relatively “green” (albeit still non-renewable).

    • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      All fossil fuels are the real enemy, 7% down on any of them is a good thing regardless of how they compare to each other. But also with a claim calling gas relatively green you should add a source or link to some studies because that doesn’t sound accurate

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        10 months ago

        I am not an expert, but I try to be pragmatic. Here’s what socalgas.com says about the topic.

        You’re right that natural gas is methane and that leaks are bad. However I think a nuanced view is important here for a few reasons.

        • Many developed countries have the infrastructure and workforce in place to not just safely deliver methane to buildings as an energy source but also to correct leaks.

        • Methane can be produced via a variety of sources both at a large and small scale. I’ve toyed with the idea of making a black soldier fly larvae farm and methane would be a by product

        • Gas tanks to hold methane have maximum a lifespan of 10 years. However many other methods of storing potential energy have a much shorter maximum lifespan, making methane a decent backup energy source in cases of emergency.

        I don’t know how good the energy conversion rate of burning methane is but I would be surprised if it is low.

        Personally I think we should leverage every option, especially the lower hanging fruit before dismissing these options as being not ideal when the alternative is continuing to do worse.

      • nivenkos@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        But the methane gets burned to CO2. Sure leaks are worse as a greenhouse gas, but then you’d need to count air pollution, radiation, water pollution, etc. from coal mining and burning too.