Hi everyone,

Currently looking at either a Pixel 8 or a S23 as a replacement for my Zenfone 8 that is slowly becoming a hindrence due to (primarily) the battery. I would replace it, but as it costs a lot to do that here and I have needs for a non-compromised water protection DIY feels like a dangerous option.

So S23 vs Pixel 8, what would you guys recommend assuming I can get either for the same price?

I like the S23 hardware a bit better on paper, but as Pixel phones generally are very flashable my anti-Google sentiments might (ironically) push me there.

I would get a fairphone 5 for the hot-swappable battery etc if they weren’t so expensive for what you get, and as Im buying second hand reuse is better for the environment anyways.

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    8 months ago

    https://calyxos.org/docs/guide/microg/#:~:text=The long answer%3A microG does,Services in the app itself).

    I can’t find out how micro g is a security risk unless you use Google apps.

    If I’m not using any Google apps, how is micro g a security risk?

    Because certain parts, not apps, of e/OS use micro g?

    Fairphone ships a Google os or an e/os.

    Lineageos says that the micro g security risk is only present if you explicitly give permission:

    “The signature spoofing could be an unsafe feature only if the user blindly gives any permission to any app, as this permission can’t be obtained automatically by the apps. Moreover, to further strengthen the security of our ROM, we modified the signature spoofing permission so that only system privileged apps can obtain it, and no security threat is posed to our users.”

    If I keep this pixel, I can always try grapheneos on it.

    Evidence would be if reports come out that something is insecure.

    Since there are no reports of murena or fairphone being more insecure than many other OSs, and any reports or user discussions I can find talk about it being more secure, I just don’t see the point of worrying about problems that haven’t occurred yet or unrelated to my situation (I don’t use Google apps or the Play store, so I worry about issues that affect Google apps are the Play store for instance).

    I think you’re getting the same points because you’re concerns and mine are not the same.

    Can you show me the updates that are delayed for months by fairphone? I can’t find any evidence of that.

    I’m not sure I understand that process either, why are updates delayed by months?

    I see, I was conflating the fairphone and murena companies.