The main cloud services don’t even work natively (GoogleDrive, OneDrive, iCloud) basically the only mainstream choice is Dropbox. I tried to use Google Drive in Mint, and it’s a pain to get it to work, and usually it stops working after computer restarts.

Someone has a recommendation about how to handle these services?

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    I keep seeing this question pop up. “Why doesn’t [closed/proprietary technology] work well in Linux?”

    This question should be asked at whoever makes said technology. You are their client, why don’t they support your operating system?

    That responsibility should not fall on the shoulders of the thankless volunteers that do their best to create an awesome OS.

    Alternatively you can buy one of the commercial distributions and become a client. Then you can ask your supplier why don’t they support that technology.

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      I agree! But it’s surprising that even Google doesn’t have a native app for Drive. There’s one for android, but not for Linux? I’m guessing it all boils down to number of users, but still…

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      Case in point, Mega.nz offers a native GUI client for Linux and went out of their way to also make a full command line client.
      Support those services that don’t treat you like ass, y’know?

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    If you want cloud storage I’d recommend Nextcloud as a service (I’m not affiliated with them, just a customer)

    Works like a charm. You can even install plugins. Also, there are other companies that provide hosting so there is no vendor-lock-in.

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        I have a raspberry pi 2, would this handle Nextcloud? Any recommendations for a hard drive to use with it please?

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          Being 32 bit, it’s getting a bit old for using it with modern software. But maybe take a look at this and give it a try:

          https://help.nextcloud.com/t/how-to-install-nextcloudpi/126308

          NextcloudPi is a fairly low-maintenance version of NC, the only way I’d recommend installing it besides as a docker image. Straight installing NC is a recipe for disaster, it’s notoriously bad at updating that way.

          Whatever you do, don’t use the builtin web updater inside NC to update nextcloud itself. Their app updater is fine, but the actual Nextcloud web updater is utter dogshit and will break things.

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      I second that.

      With the additional advantage that rclone has modules like crypt and join, which allows you to keep your data encrypted no matter which cloud you use, gaining more cloud space by joining clouds, etc.

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        rclone

        rclone bisync, even it’s not good in production, I been using it for 1.5 years, just need to check the log regularly… I just hope this function become stable enough to be on mainstream, then almost all cloud storage works well on it…

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    Google drive integrates simply into the file manager on Gnome for cloud storage. It doesn’t do offline file-sync between devices, however.

    The Microsoft and Apple products don’t support Linux because… Microsoft and Apple.

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      I managed to get one drive working on linux, able to mount it onto the filesystem using rclone.

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        Yes, it’s often possible to get unsupported services working, but it’s rarely simple and it’s prone to breakage over time with changes to the system as well as to the service. I do not recommend it to anyone seeking a simple solution and I will not do it for someone I need to support.

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        No, the Google Drive implementation is just for cloud storage. It doesn’t do offline file-sync. I’ll update my earlier comment.

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      I sick of seeing Google Drive recommended as an alternative to dropbox. (Because I am looking for an alternative to dropbox and so far nothing has feature parity with it and the features I value.) If an app forces me to be logged in to a graphical environment locally on Linux then it has already failed to understand why people use *nix. Google Drive doesn’t keep offline copies and it doesn’t work on CLI. So basically useless on my server. If the files aren’t natively and transparently accesible as a local filesystem while they are synced to the cloud, it’s not a viable Linux Dropbox alternative. I want my files on my machine and a copy on the cloud, not the other way round.

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        I have not and do not recommend it. I simply responded to the claim that it doesn’t work, because it does. OP has something else going on that’s causing Google Drive problems.

        I use both Dropbox and Mega and recommend either for someone seeking a simple cloud-sync solution.

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    Rclone is awesome. Mega and PCloud got native clients that works great. Nextcloud is an alternative.

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    I have a self-hosted Nextcloud and my Nextcloud account connected via GNOME as an Online Account. It integrates seamlessly with Calendar, gives me a webdav mount for my files etc. I don’t have any issues. I have not added any Google accounts, and definitely no Microsoft accounts. I don’t use public clouds for private stuff.

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      I have a self-hosted Nextcloud and my Nextcloud account connected via GNOME as an Online Account.

      The self-hosted bit is the problem. I have yet to find a Nextcloud provider that offers the service truly ready to go. The ones I found try to make it somewhat easy by offering Install buttons in web interfaces but if you have absolutely no clue about such things, even that is a hurdle to overcome.

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    Most people I know who use Linux wouldn’t trust Cloud services cause that’s just storing your stuff on somebody else machine. You can self hosted service like Next cloud on a raspberry pi or just get comfortable with networking enough to setup VPN and ssh into your home computer from the net to get your stuff.

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      A huge part of disaster recovery is storing things in separate geographic locations. That’s not easily don’t with self hosting. If all my stuff is on a file server at my house and my house burns down then I’ve lost all my files.

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        While this is true, you can have a remote backup service that isn’t the type of cloud storage the OP seems to want (that is, which isn’t designed for editing individual files on the fly on the remote server, or synchronizing between devices). They’re similar, but not the same.

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          I’m mostly talking about the “somebody else’s computer” part in the comment I replied to. I don’t think it’s very feasible. I think self hosting stuff from home is awesome and think it’s a culture more folks should check out, but to really have a proper backup of files they need to be stored in multiple different physical locations and that’s not something that’s cost effective for most folks. What you’re talking about is still “someone else’s computer” so not different from the comment above.

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        @JackbyDev @besbin my personal solution for this is an encrypted 16tb external storage drive I keep in my car. A copy of my server drive is made once a week. not perfect solution but doesn’t require much effort on my part

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      Well the thing is, I’m still not comfortable in opening up an attack surface like that. I would much rather pay for someone else to do that. Preferably someone who really knows what they are doing and keeps an eye on the constantly evolving security environment. There’s a bunch of other stuff happening in my life, so finding the time to play server admin isn’t that easy right now.

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          Thanks for the link. Recently, I’ve been looking into nextcloud providers, but somehow I missed this company.

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        If you need the online storage (or whatever self hosted service) just for yourself (and maybe some few people), it’s very simple to set up a Wireguard instance. My server doesn’t even show open ports to the outside world, but with Wireguard I can access my git, wiki, etc in my home LAN.
        I haven’t really tried any of the second tier Solutions like Tailscale. But when you have more users or a more complex environment, that could help.

        Still, sharing stuff with “outsiders” would still be tricky, I guess - at least I haven’t found a solution…

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    Mega (Mega Upload) ain’t bad, 30gb free. Worth a look!

    I used them all, so I get plenty of cloud storage for free

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      Hi, I quote this, Syncthing+Nextcloud if you want to share directories, files, calendar, contatcs etc with someone, for example your family.

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      @fossisfun @desconectado Still, if I was Microsoft I think I’ll develop an official OneDrive client for Linux. And I hope in the future they’ll realize it’s not a bad opportunity for them and for fidelizing users.

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      Syncthing is a very good piece of software, even when working cross-platform. Nextcloud, however, is the biggest and most cumbersome pile of garbage open-source produced in the last decate.

      Currently I’m running Syncthing on my NAS and all my devices sync to it (no cross-device sync to avoid issues). Then I’ve an SMB share to allow access to the files on iOS devices and FileBrowser for a cloud-like web browser access experience. Works flawlessly uses very little RAM and its solid, private, secure and manageable open-source - not something like Nextcloud that calls home, breaks everything on upgrades, wastes ram and runs slowly to only deliver an inferior experience in all possible ways.

      Some of my experiences with NC are described in detail at https://lemmy.world/comment/1571886 and https://lemmy.world/comment/346174

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          Nextcloud is everything other than minimization and stability. I bet if you take a quick look at their repositories you’ll find security-wise questionable stuff very fast and also tons of different pieces not a single thing.

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    Someone has a recommendation about how to handle these services?

    You don’t. Apple is notorious for their walled garden approach. Microsoft has no interest in supporting Linux (why should they?). Don’t know about Google.

    I am pretty happy with pcloud. They offer lifetime licenses that are really worth it if you intend to stick with them long term. The automatic Backup works great and AFAIK they have clients for all major platform’s. The android client could be better, but Windows and Linux works great. Don’t miss any functionality and the connection (at least here in Germany) is fast.

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    Chiming in, is there a solid OneDrive client for linux that just works? No collaboration stuff needed for it or other fluff, just simple file sync. I pay for OneDrive family and would be nice to be able to sync files with other ecosystems (Synology, Windows, Android).

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    I have a Backblaze B2 account I use for other things, I recently created a new bucket on it and attached it as a drive using s3fs. Works fine as far as I can tell (I’ve not used it much - prefer to keep things locally and just back them up off-site, which is actually what I have my B2 account for), so you certainly can do this with an S3 (AWS) compatible service.

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      I use Backblaze B2 buckets too, just use a cron job to sync stuff once a day (using it for backups). It’s not expensive and it just seems to keep on working. I also like their disc reliability reports they send out.

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      That’s what I do, too. Only thing is, I’m trying to figure out how to speed s3fs up because it’s pretty pokey. How well does it run for you?