Yeah no wörries being pedantic about it is for me, really.

I’d think EV’s would be perhaps about as easy, or easier… in theory. But in practice idk if they always have actual hydraulic brakes. I’d still think they do, even if there’s also regenerative braking.

But for electric cars maybe it would be model based basically. Hell probably at some point the steering wheel and pedals will be wireless so you can change sides when crossing from left-driving traffic to the right and back. Then kids would drive from the backseat as a dare. If we’ll even let humans drive in the future. I know automated driving is shit currently, but I was thinking of living for a while yet.

I’m thinking at some point it will probably be that you’ll need to hand over driving to a computer whilst in a city or smth. Then can only drive yourself outside city centers. That could help with traffic. I believe there’s already large semitrucks or something which can sort of link in a convoy so only the first truck’s driver controls the speed and steering and whatnot, the others are computer controlled in order to minimise braking and fuel consumption etc.

Well, step-father, to be accurate. I’ve never even lived with him, I moved out when my little sister was born or thereabouts. And I still had a dad long after that, so that’s why I don’t call him dad or father. (This paragraph was prolly more for me than for you, tbh.)

But yeah, I used to think it was expensive, and it used to be, afaik, as you had to basically either buy and old drivers-ed car or extensively modify your own vehicle.

However, someone came up/allowed it to just be a pedal on the passenger side that’s bolted on the floor and which then has a hydraulic hose going to the actual breakpedal. So all you have is a pinky-sized hose going between the seats. You can either just let it sit on the console as it doesn’t bother anything or you if you really want, take some panels away and put it through there.

All the bots scraping this and all the people who will look at your profile and go “lol what an infantile moron”. ;>

So what’s the reason you can’t mention why you’re in the thread, or what you wrote in your first comment? Is it because you’re desperately avoiding admitting to a mistake, because your infantile ego is controlling you.

So who are you talking to, because it’s you who’s spamming your fetishes, because you can’t actually talk about why you’re in the thread. Yet there’s a reason you’re compulsively replying. Can you explain why?

Oh right, I already did, in the beginning. And then again, and again and again. And you’ve followed each and every step, like clockwork.

You’re just not man enough to admit when you make a mistake. Which shows just how infantile you are. To everyone ;>>>>

Oh you can do that in Finland as well. You just need to have an extra brake pedal installed on the passenger side, for emergency braking. You also need an extra mirror, and a permit to teach. The requirements for a permit to teach are nominal, it’s just that you have at least 5 years experience with the class of vehicles you’re teaching (as you could teach a BE as well for instance, not talking about installing extra brake pedals on motorbikes lol), you’re at least 25 years of age and have a “clean driving record”. I’m not sure what disqualifies one with the record. I think it’s probably somewhat subjective. Like a DUI definitely disqualifies you, but some minor speeding prolly won’t.

It’s been increasing a lot here. Like when I learned to drive I knew of no-one in my age or near it who’d done it. But my sister is 15 years younger and when she did it my stepdad (her dad, she’s my half-sibling) taught her. It’s doubled since 2014.

And I think the driving schools have less theory and driving lessons as well, we had tons. Probably dropped it so that it’s faster for the schools to get more people in and out. Ie capitalism loosening safety regulations in the name of profit. Thanks, right-wing government of however long ago it was! ^(/s)

Well I did some checking. Lots of what Google says nowadays in the first answers is hallucination though so feel free to correct if you know better.

But “in a vast majority of states” as long as you’re over 18, all you need to do is walk into a DMV and pass a “knowledge test” and a vision test. Then you get a learner’s permit. Sure, you’re not allowed to drive solo with one, but the supervisor just needs to be an adult with a license (and “capable of driving the vehicle” ie “sober and alert” but eh drunk driving laws in the US are a whole other mess, damn Murica just give your cops breathalysers. here they sell disposable ones at every register in supermarkets).

In most states you can get that at 16 afaik.

Here in Finland, when I went to driving school, it lasted weeks. You have to sit theory lessons, risk lessons, and then do driving with an instructor for a dozen hours or so and then you get to go take a driving test and if you pass, you’ll get a license.

In the US they usually don’t even require parallel parking.

I had to parallel park in a steep hill and then hill start from there while not stalling the engine.

And after that, you get your phase 1 driving license. It gets taken away easier for fines, you can have like 2 in a year or 3 in 2 years iirc. I mean, you can’t. You can have 1 in a year or 2 in 2 years but 2 in one year or 3 in two years iirc and you get your license revoked and have to do a driving test all over again.

Then when you’ve had your phase 1 license for at least 1.5 years and have completed both night driving training and slippery driving training (you get taken to a rally track with hills and bends and it’s all covered in either water and ice or in the summer soap and oil and water) then you can have your permanent license.

So you know, by the idea that more training and higher requirements and harder to pass driving tests would mean better drivers unless there’s a maaaasssive disparity in the populations and Americans are just naturally so much better drivers that they compensate for the difference training makes. Which… they aren’t, let’s be honest.

Oh and most cars are manual. I feel like saying that a majority of Americans wouldn’t even know how to drive a manual probably isn’t a controversial statement, right? You’re allowed to go through driving school with automats but then you won’t be allowed to drive manual cars.

Also, several different classes of vehicles and licences. At 15 you get M class, for moped or “moped-cars” (fucking rich kids, pappa betalar) at 16 you can get a A1, that’s bikes up to 125cc and 11kw, then at 18 you can go for B which is regular cars, and nowadays I think only C1, but I did C. That’s heavy good vehicles, large “semitrucks”. C1 is smaller, lighter, semitrucks, they sort of split the class for some reason.

Most of the American “trucks” the insane sized pickups would probably C1 if not C.

If you want trailers then you have to also do E for them, and that’s for each (but not bikes obvs) so for instance you can have ABEC which would allow you to drive a large trailer behind a regular car, but not a massive one behind a semitruck. (You can have a small one with C, just like you can have a small regular trailer or a camper with B if their mass is low enough). But to have full semitruck+trailer you’d need CE. Then there’s also D which is buses. So you could have ABECEDE. (My dad had that I think.) A1 upgrades to a and A with “driving experience” which is just counted in years since you got the license, even if you didn’t drive for that time. So if you drive A1 license at 16 you get a-license at 18 and A at 20. Lowercase a is bikes up to 600cc and 25kw (but people often remove the limits from it being 25, but will be very costly if you get caught, for insurance).

TLDR the requirements for a driving license in the US are about the same as for a moped license here in Finland, and the requirements for a Commercial Driving License in the US are about the same as those here for a regular license.

Sooo… yeah. I think we can infer.

Also, there’s these:

https://www.wardsauto.com/news/what-europe-can-teach-america-on-road-safety-killing-by-design-part-1/798798/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0386111211000033

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12544-014-0131-7

Also I’m not sure where you got the idea that the US doesn’t have sidewalks.

I think they mean “curbs” actually. Or curbed sidewalks in general. And even if they don’t, I’ve heard from lots of Americans how simply some places aren’t walkable. As in there is literally no sidewalk, and you can’t step off the road, as there’s no “right to roam” in the US so someone could technically just shoot you for trespassing in the worst case, forcing you to practically walk on the road, which is being driven by massive and unsafe SUVs. SUV’s which wouldn’t care about most European curbs probably, having such large tires. But most average sized cars do.

Who do you think you’re lying to?

You know it isn’t me.

You know it’s no-one reading that.

So… it’s you. Yourself. You’re trying extremely hard to delude yourself that you’re gonna “win” this and “get the last word”. You won’t. You “lost” ages ago and every single reply is reinforcing that. To everyone.

Doesn’t matter that you hop on your alts and then come on this account once a day to quickly make some comments on other threads so it wouldn’t look like you’re so childish. Again, youre trying to delude yourself. No-one else is even remotely thinking you’re the “winner” here.

Because you made a mistake and now you’re not man enough to own up to it.

Also the fact that you instantly think of children’s underwear as a sexual thing is fucking gross man. I hope you never have kids, they wouldn’t be safe with you.

Correction, I’m teaching a kid a lesson. Mainly, don’t be controlled by your infantile ego.

Hopefully you’re not actually an adult with an ego that infantile, right?

It’s not like you’re deeeeeesperately trying to avoid admitting you made a mistake in your wording and then proceded days on end to have a tantrum you definitely did no such thing, pretty much proving to everyone that you very much did… riight…? ;>

You know, like I’ve been saying, *over and over and over and over again…? Riiiiight? ;P

See the “now I’ll try to turn the tables and accuse him of avoiding some nonsense I just made up”-phase is a pretty common one as well.

This isn’t a thread about children’s underwear, is it? You must have your private tabs confused with this thread.

You can continue this for weeks, but the only person you’re lying to is yourself. Or do you think the average person can’t see what you’re doing?

Am I being pedantic, and an asshole? Yeah. But I’m not wrong. Like you were. And when I am, I actually admit to it. I’m here to write because I enjoy writing on forums. You’re here because you can’t wrangle your infantile ego.

If the girls from your school saw you acting like this, they’d laugh even harder than they previously did. (I assume you’re in school, as I assume you’re a child, as anyone adult having a tantrum like yours would be so much more shameful.)

All trivia games are just testing the luck of the players, right? Which one was most lucky to gifted their knowledge? Unless you just phrased something poorly?

This is a lesson for you. I gonna make you act so childishly that you’re gonna remember it for the rest of your life and everytime you do, you’ll cringe at how infantile you were. Can’t wait to see what you’ll devolve into by next week! If you’re not a lost cause than that cringe you’ll always carry with you might make you think twice about what you write and also make you more capable of accepting that you’re fallible and mistakes happen.

Which is more an adult response to someone pointing out you’ve made a mistake?

This

Or this

Hmmmm? ;>

I can talk about anything in the thread. Why are you avoiding the reason you are in this thread? What was my first reply to your, and why are you avoiding it?

Is it because your controlled by your infantile ego, and can’t help it? :(((

You know, because you’re still having the tantrum you starter days ago. The one I’ve seen a million times on various sites.

Dancing exactly to my tune. I’m just waiting when you devolve to the “tldr” and “k” stage. Because you’re proud of your ignorance. Thats why it’s so hard for you to accept you made a mistake. :<<

Oh, still the sad oneliners, because you’re too childish to accept when you’ve made a mistake.

Why do you think having this sort of tantrum will make it better? What’s your plan? Keep up this childish avoidance? :D

Good luck. For anyone not completely controlled by their childish ego, it would be easier to say "yeah, I worded it poorly, it did imply all learned things are ‘randomly gifted’ instead of earned.’

But guess you’re used to changing accounts. You probably change them more often than your irl underwear hahaha

So when people say, “I could eat a horse”, you bring them an actual horse?

Not understanding idioms further points to how bad your language skills are. Like when what you said literally meant “all information is gotten through random ‘gifting’”

It’s genuinely fun to see how little control over your tiny childish ego you have. You can’t stop it from forcing you back here like the hundreds and thousands of other kids who I see doing this. Youre doing literally exactly what they did.

Ie trying pathetically to not dance to my tune while literally dancing to my tune. (Yes, I’m using “literally” as emphasis, not to mean literally, literally. Are you having a hard time understanding that? You might want to ask your doctor about autism tests. ;>)

How you ask? By trying to avoid replying with one line, instead you just repeat it several times, as if that made some sort of difference.

And then you bring up logical fallacies, which only show how much you’re one of those kids who thinks about “winning” conversations like this one. That’s been clear from the start.

You just worded something so poorly that it implied a thing you didn’t mean. It’s okay, mistakes happen. But what isn’t okay is this childish tantrum you’re having. Publicly, might I remind you. Enjoy using this account (or should I say “alt”) after this as everyone sees you squirming in this thread for days.

(Just a casual reminder I’ve been in threads like this that go on for weeks. I’ve never “lost” a single one, because there’s nothing for me to “lose” as I like conversations and talking. You’re just here because you have a tantrum when someone tells you you’re we wrong. :D)

How is it you’re unable to do anything but sad oneliners, just like I’ve said?

You’re dancing exactly to my tune. Because I’ve been over this a million times. (Google “what is emphasis”. Surely you’re not dumb enough to that that “million” is literal? When people say “I could eat a horse”, do you get upset when they don’t understand why you bring them an entire grilled horse?)

Oh yes, that’s why I can speak about anything previously mentioned in the thread, when you can’t?

I enjoy writing on forums. If you don’t, perhaps you should stop?

Like I said, I’ve seen this tantrum a thousand times and it always ends the same.

All because you have some hangup about going “you’re right, I was wrong, it was poor wording, which implied…”

But you won’t, just like I said like a dozen comments ago. I’ve sometimes gone a few weeks into these threads. It’s genuinely hilarious how much people like you devolve, which just shows they were always just pretending. I don’t need to. :)

The proof is in the pudding. ;>

i was camping. some of us have lives. you should try it.

And most of the pathetic people who think forums are about “winning” things and who whine about people writing on forums (:D) also have alt-accounts, I’ve noted.

And now that I pointed it out, you felt obliged to continue with the other. Or not. I really have no “proof”, it’s just pathetically common. To avoid getting called out for it, you might want to be active on both even when you’re not having a tantrum.

There’s no place within my national boundaries that I wouldn’t have the internet in. Maybe at most one national park about 1000km away. See, for me it really doesn’t takes more than a couple of min every now and then to reply.

Still here with sad oneliners.

I can respond to you and point out that people sometimes use “millions” to emphasise that there’s a lot of something. If I were to estimate it honestly, I’d say I’ve seen at least one or two of kids like you a week for the past 10 years so that’s what, 520 to 1040 of these tantrums, on average.

You’re not ashamed to publicly make such a idiot out of yourself. All you need to prove me wrong is address the subject or leave. But you won’t, because your infantile ego controls you. :D

Woe what a great argument, sure showed me my place.

LLM’s are all sycophantic and if you’re having a hard time telling a person from an LLM, you must be stupid af.

And because you can’t answer any of the rhetoric even at the level of a shitty slopbot you don’t answer, just adhom. Lololol

“what is emphasis”

You’re not a native speaker, are you?

That would explain the poor wording.

No-one’s forcing you to participate in this conversation.

Why the three week leave from Lemmy btw? Luckily the “other guy” was active when you weren’t. Weirdly, you never comment at the exact same time. Almost as if someone who got shamed went and hopped on their alt.

“people use language differently from you”

Yeah, but that doesn’t change how grammar works, does it?

This is about one person being incapable of saying “my mistake” and getting super annoyed. Like I’ve said, I’ve seen this tantrum a thousand times. :)

Is there a reason you’re asking me things, on a forum?

Wait what, is that what people on forums actually do? Oh no.

I’m not having any argument. I’m pointing out someone was mistaken. Is there a problem with that? No, I don’t think there is, but I’m sure one person has a problem with it. ;>

No they didn’t. They pretend to have said that.

It’s like apologising to someone by saying “I’m sorry you think you deserve an apology” and then arguing “I already apologised actually” after implicitly stating that the other person didn’t in fact even deserve an apology. Meaning that they’re not actually sorry for anything, because “sorry you think you deserve an apology” isn’t actually a real apology, is it?

I can see how someone wouldn’t see the difference. If you’re having problems, please ask for help.