While I agree with you here that Coffee Stain is a shining example of what EA should be and how it should be utilized, I think you can also understand OPs cynicism given the state of affairs. I don’t think it’s entirely fair to jump straight “to all gamers are mad no matter what” but I certainly empathize with your frustrations regarding the apparently implacable nature of the community.

My intention is not to tone police, I just think conversations like these would be more productive if they were less antagonistic.

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Not the person who responded to you but:

Your first post is a bit ambiguous. On initial reading it seemed to me that you were accusing Coffee Stain specifically of abusing the EA system to manipulate sales, but I can also see how your intent may have been more general and broadly directed.

In either case, you didn’t “ask” anything so it is a bit disingenuous to imply that you did.

The person who responded to you may simply be exasperated with the state of the gaming community, and it seems you are similarly disillusioned with the state of development. In either case, both of you seem to have some justifiable frustrations that are being misdirected. It’s important to call out the bad behavior of devs, and it’s important to recognize the ones who are doing things the right way. I think it’s equally important to be civil.

The gaming industry has become just that - an industry worth over 200 billion dollars, and the industry leaders do not have the best interests of the gaming community at heart. The amount of infighting and snark among the community does not serve us. Community action can have enormous impact, as seen recently with the Helldivers 2 PSN debacle. It is in our best interest to elevate the level of discourse in our community and leave the barbs to the in-game match chat.

K, that’s my soapbox, sorry if it came across preachy, it’s just a topic that’s important to me.

I’ve spent 20 years in various kitchens, pizza included, and in my experience while kitchen work is very tiring it’s not very good exercise. In a well designed kitchen you will mostly be moving back and forth in a small, maybe 5 square foot, area bending over, squatting down, standing back up, and reaching a lot. Don’t get me wrong, it is very active work, but it’s not likely to make you much stronger or improve your cardiovascular health or conditioning much.

There’s something else to consider as well. Relative to the misery, kitchen work pays very, very poorly. As a result kitchens are largely populated by those either unable or unwilling to find better paying and less demanding jobs or by those who are deeply passionate about the work. Neither of these types make terribly good workmates to a casual interloper and it would be wise to keep in mind that those around you are living out a tough life. One they mat find deeply rewarding, but tough nonetheless.

There are, however, as many types of kitchens as there are types of people, so you may find a place that fits with what you want to get out of it, it just might be a longer than average search. Good luck, though.

I’ve always heard that the nib was meant to help you gauge when to stop your pull stroke and start your push stroke so that you use the whole saw and don’t wear the teeth unevenly. Is this not the case?