Their power trains. Engines are very important and when you cut costs in manufacturing it lowers the quality and the standards of quality on crucial parts of the engine. Hyundai had a class action lawsuit that involved about a dozen different vehicle models over a 15 year period where due to a casting flaw in the engine block it was common for the engines to consume/burn oil even with exceptional maintenance and proper oil change intervals of 3000 miles and this resulted in the crank case being starved of oil and when the crankshaft doesnt have enough oil to build pressure and send it through the valleys built into the block and cylinder head and drip back down through the valves and adequately lubricate all those running parts then the rod bearings which are thin slivers of metal between the crank shaft and the connecting rods which connect to the piston they end up getting small pieces of metal between them which scratches these bearings and loosens them and creates a very loud knocking sound that will now be permanent even if you were to top new oil into the engine immediately once it starts knocking from the bottom end the engine is cooked. Go to any junk yard and you will find many hyundais that were effected by this issue (that hyundai literally attempted to sweep under the rug hoping it would go away without doing anything to resolve the issue because it would have been to expensive to redesign these engines techs were being instructed by hyundai to tell owners of their vehicles that burning 2 or 3 quarts of oil every 1000 miles was “within specifications” it was pretty damn absurd) in greater numbers than any other engine subvarients of other manufacturers. It gave hyundai/kia/genesis a really bad name in the automotive industry for years and that mistrust and dislike of Hyundai as a brand still persists today.
Granted electric cars are an entirely different animal i would still much rather spend my money on a brand that has shown a commitment to producing a quality product that lasts. One thing toyota does right is they assume people will neglect to maintain their vehicles so they over engineer their vehicles so that they will last longer under extreme operating conditions than they should. This is why it is so common to see toyotas from the 90’s and early 00’s still on the road today. Even if a toyota has some oil consumption issues As long as you keep toping the oil off it won’t be an issue. And when i say oil consumption issues i mean on a 30+ year old engine with 200-300 or more miles on it maybe burning one quart every 2000/3000 miles but no more than one quart per 1000 miles. Anything beyond 1 quart per 1000 miles is ridiculous and usually a symptom of a bad oil leak or sludged piston rings and means you need an engine rebuild or you can try an engine flush. (bG fluids engine restorstion flush kit is $350 for the kit but it works and is quite amazing from what i have seem) there are cheaper enfine flush products. One thing you can do is just mix 20% marvel mystery oil into each oil change untill you notice a reduction in oil consumption but with tbe hyundai thing this wouldn’t fix the underlying issue which was caused by a poorly manufactured engine block.
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They are still leaps and bounds better than other manufacturers. 3 of the 4 major Japanese manufacturers put out quality. Nissan used to a while back but really lost their way. Despite the implied monopolization aspects I was excited when i heard honda was going to acquire nissan but then disappointed to hear that merger fell through.
Theyre not too bad. Japanese manufacturing standards are pretty exceptional. Its a shame that honda isnt buying nissan after all, they are the one outlier.
Amen. Thats why i have an rx330. If you want fuel efficiency they make plenty of hybrid drive trains. The first prius came out in like 2000 they sure have come a long way with that tech.
Id rather have a 15-20 year old toyota with 100k miles on the odometer than a brand new Hyundai.
Toyota makes electric cars and also hydrogen cars. But really EV’s arent all that great for the environment. Lithium mining is pretty awful not to mention super exploitative. And there is this bottleneck of liFePo battery production that we and the industry at large seem to be ignoring. Currenty less than 8% of the amount of new vehicles sold annually on the planet are EV so we would need to increase the supply by at least 1250% plus all the other industries that rely on lithium batteries like cordless power tools, batteries and many other consumer electronics. So likely we would need to increase production by 2000% and thats a conservative estimate and then we would need to repeat this year after year after year. This us not going to be good for the environment regardless the increase in sustainability compared to ICE vehicles. We need to develop solar tech beyond what it is. Look at tje german auto manufacturer Sono who makes a solar ev that seems pretty promising for a technology in its infancy. Also we need to really take notes from toyota because manufacturing cars in the way that American automotive manufacturers have normalized, disposable planned obsolescence vehicles made to break down so that consumers will have to buy a mew one or pay for hours and hours of expensive labor, is just not sustainable. Toyota at least puts out vehicles that mostly Will still be on the roads 3 decades or more after their first purchase. When most other manufacturers are making vehicles that are pretty much crushed and sold for scrap after 100,000 miles or 10 years. So besides the technology itself the current model of consumer usage and disposal is not sustainable
Idk what poanet youre on but toyota makes great cars all around. The lexus RX/ toyota highlander (which is just the camry platform crossover) redefined suv crossovers. Without it suv’s tofay would be totally different. Also toyota 4cylinder hybrids get 60+ miles to the gallon the electric hybrid rav 4 in 2020 was getting 96 mpg. Toyota makes tons of wagons and sedans, tbe prius comes in wagon format the ct200h is a wagon, Camry, carola, avalon, gs300, ls350, sc400, I mean if you dont want a car that will last 3-5 decades plus that was made to last then get what you want. I cant tell you how many late 90’s early aughts toyota products are still on the road i see dozens every day. I have one. A 2004 rx330 with 225,000 miles on it. Aiming to take it to a million miles. There is a reason toyota products have great resale value, are highly desired and have stellar consumer reports ratings. And they are pretty easy to work on so you dont have to pay 200+ an hour at a mechanic if youre not an idiot and are mechanically inclined.
And if you want something else then go honda. Toyota and honda products are hands down the 2 best quality manufacturers that produce reliable lasting vehicles.
Hyundai makes awful products. Look at the major lawsuits they had due to engine manufacturing defects that caused oil deprivation and rod knock(when the crank case/ engine block is too low on oil the bearing sleeves in between the crank shaft and connecting rods that attach to the pistons end up wearing excessively from running dry making the connection loose so the engine will make a loud knocking noise that means it is FUBAR and needs a new engine or a rebuild) across like a dozen different model / engine subvarients over a 12 year period. They are cheaply made. South Korea is a western proxy state their corporate culture is to maximize profits on the backs of consumers and cur costs wherever possible.
Buy a toyota or honda if you want a reliable quality vehicle. Maybe a volvo or a vw product but only if you know how to maintain cars yourself otherwise youll be paying a lot for maintenance on german cars, but toyotas are made to keep running even if you neglext maintenance and are super reliable if routine maintenance is kept up.
Fuck hyundai, buy a toyota like someone with a modicum of taste and intelligence.
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Price of gold just hit $3140 why does that matter? Because gold is the true measure lf inflation. The inflation statistics used by walstreet and the FED come from the world bank and IMF. These numbers are based on consumer price index which is an inadequate measure of inflation because it does not account for the devaluation of a currency due to the increase in circulating currency supply and leveraged debt. Also Cpi Has been manipulated several times in the last few decades to keep inflation numbers skewed.
The reality here is that capitalist empires in decline always lie about the true measure of inflation to prevent civil unrest and the fomenting of a revolution by the working class.
But anyway: for the first 173 years of the us dollar as a standardized currency the price of gold only fluctuated 95% from $18 to $35 but in the 54 years since nixon withdrew from the bretton woods agreement ending the gold standard(the convertibility of the us dollar into gold at any bank) the price of gold has increased 8900% from $35 to $3140 this is directly proportional to the increase in the national debt in the same amount of time. From $400 billion to $36 trillion or 9000%
Even when fdr first passed the fair labor standards act setting minimum wage at 25¢/ hr that was more than the highest minimum wage currently for corporate fast food workers in California of $20/hr. As 25 cents an hour in 1938 produced 14.9 ounces of gold which would be $22/hr today or $45,160 (From 1938 to 1968 federal minimum wage was increased 7 times. On average from 1938 till today federal minimum has been increased 22 times on average once every 4 years with most adjustments happening within a year of the previous one. But today the federal minimum wage has not been adjusted in 17 years. The longest period it has gone unadjusted in 87 years.)
For about 4 decades a minimum wage worker could support a family of four with enough left over to save for their retirement (if they were not part of the approximately 50% of people with a pension) their children’s higher education and a modest family vacation once a year. During this point in history the median house price was $7200 but a home could be bought in most states for $4k-5k or even less for a fixer upper (my geandfather bought a house they were going to burn down in 1955 for $2700 about an hour outside Boston in the metropolitan providence area of new England and today it is worth $600,000) in 1950 minimum wage was raised to 75¢/hr which is 45 ounces of gold a year or $141,000 / $68/hr today. in 1956 it was again raised to $1/hr or 60 ounces of gold a year or $188,000/ $90/hr and in 1968 it was raised a final time before the end of the gold standard to $1.60 an hour this was 95 ounces of gold a year and today would be $300,000 or $147/hr it would take both adults working 2 jobs at 80 hours a week with overtime at a base pay of $30/hr to reach the same quality of life/ buying power
The reality is wall street took over our government, enacting the business plot they had attempted during the FDR administration(if you dont know about this coup led by prescott bush and the other robber barron wall street legacy families look it up) and they used their wealth and influence to eradicate the progress made by labor and civil rights advocates in the 30’s 40’s 50’s and 60’s primarily by intentionally devaluing the us dollar to lower the cost of wages for all the jobs they couldn’t outsource to the third world in the next step of their plan to siphon more wealth from the working class and poor. They had Reagan re legalize stock buybacks again and implement trans national trade agreements that sent a majority of the good manufacturing jobs and the jobs supporting them to the third world to cut lanor costs by 90-95%+
Now rent for a 2 bedroom in most metropolitan cities close to shipping ports is $3000/month (rent for 2 bedroom apartments has always been about an ounce of gold on averagein areas such as hartford ct, plymouth ma, providence ri, burlington VT, many parts of NY outside the city and new jersey. By the end of this administration gold spot price for an ounce will be $4500 last time he was in office saw rhe largest price increase under any administration from $1200 to $2050 or 71% so brace yourselves.
The reason financial institutions don’t tell us this as I mentioned above is to prevent civil unrest and revolution. If more people understood this as i do they would immediately stop participating as a wage slave in a system that doesn’t afford a quality of life worth working or living for. Minimum wage has decreased in value by 86-95% meanwhile executive pay has ballooned from 30-60 Times the median worker wage back 54-84 years ago to 1000-5000(3333%-8333%) times that same metric today with the highest paid executive earning an hourly wage of $72,000 or about $800/hr back before 1971.
The reality is that it cost more to purchase and maintain an enslaved person for their average 30 year lifespan during chattel slavery than minimum wage workers anywhere in the United States are currently compensated