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  • it’s not about being the same species.

    this is, in fact, about the criteria for intelligence inclusive of non-human intelligences

    we can’t just say ‘all humans are automatically in’. if you’re not going to be a bigoted piece of shit. and I think it’s pretty clear there are entirely non-hypothetical non-human people. elephants, dolphins, corvids, octopi, etc. these are persons. on top of hypothetical non-human people we might make from the thought-sand or find out amongst the stars, who we should have some metric to at least indicate personhood for.

    so, if the criteria isn’t just “human” (which is bigoted as shit) then you need other criteria; a bar which it is at least hypothetically possible for a human to limbo under, with fascists being the world limbo champions. on purpose. intentionally. to the point insisting they are human and have all the capacities and fullness of humans (which, remember, they don’t want, and are mostly upset by the existence of) seems disrespectful. they’re objects. like a desk. that isn’t to say you should attack them because they’re objects. I am currently surrounded by objects that I would rather not see attacked. it just means there’s no moral dimension to any degree of self defense, if, say; my purse tries to kill me and I need to stab it.




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    29 days ago

    it’s not that they don’t agree with me. it’s that they choose it. they deliberately reject all the parts of humanity I care about, the parts that things like human decency are FOR.

    If your idea of a person is this essentialized magical thing-in-itself that cannot change or be changed, and exists independently of context like the hegelian absolute; I guess you do you, but I think that’s absurd nonsense. there are reasons a person is a person. things that make them a person. it’s why we could, someday, possibly create a person from thinking-sand, why an elephant or octopus or crow should be assumed to be a person, and why a fascist is, entirely on purpose and with as much self knowledge and intention as they do anything, not a person.

    im not proposing we abuse them because they’re not people. pretty sure my desk isn’t a person, and I would rather nobody abuse it, please. the dirt outside my apartment isn’t a person, and if I saw someone kicking it I’d think they were fucking weird. I’m proposing we treat them poorly because they’re a fucking danger, and will fucking kill us if we don’t stop them, and there’s no moral hazard here.


  • this has been explicitly stated by some fascists in the past, there was this one german guy, forget his name, after world war one, fucked him up a bunch I think, and then went hard into that masturbating-to-being-crushed-in-the-bowels-of-the-machine marionetti shit to be a super-loyal nazi with the explicitly stated goal of crushing out all the humanity from him/the world (IDR it was a footnote on something I read years ago) then switched to bolshevism when he met a lenninist, because he thought that was worse.

    it’s like shitting on someone’s weird it/it’s neopronouns. treating fascists like people is rude. to the fascists. and to all the kids who played games where they shot a bunch of extremely blocky nazis growing up and dont want to have to be fucking woke about it and pretend they’re people now.





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    29 days ago

    no, they did that, deliberately and by choice. if you treat them like people they get mad, and I think it might be unethical if you see them as such.

    unethical as in, like, violating their consent and contradicting their self image and shit. they do not consent to common human decency, and wouldn’t accept it in good faith if they could, which they cannot.

    edit: think about it like using the wrong pronouns for someone because you think they’re such a cute (their AAB gender), it’s fucking rude. no matter how cute a (whatever) you think of them as. they don’t want you to.