For those unfamiliar, GrapheneOS is a privacy and security enhanced custom ROM endorsed by Snowden. Despite these big names, plenty of people give it backlash

Even @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml gives it backlash despite being a moderator of Lemmy’s biggest privacy community. A quote here: “grapheneOS trolls are downvoting every single post and comment of mine, and committing vote manipulation on Lemmy. They are using 5-6 accounts.” That was in response to downvotes on a comment posted in the c/WorldNews community, which is entirely unrelated to technology.

One of the reasons is that GrapheneOS can only be installed on Google Pixels due to security compatibility, which makes complete sense considering Android should be most compatible with Google’s own devices. GrapheneOS even lists the exact reasons they chose Pixels, and encourage people to step up and manufacture a different supported device.

One year ago, Louis Rossmann posted this video outlining his reasons for deleting GrapheneOS. Mainly, he had multiple bad experiences with Daniel Micay (the founder and main developer of GrapheneOS) which put his distrust in the GrapheneOS project. Since then, he has stepped down and will no longer be actively contributing to the project.

So, I am here to learn why exactly people still do not like GrapheneOS.

  • DARbarian@kbin.run
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    5 months ago

    Honestly, I think you summed up the biggest issues. As much as I look forward to getting a Pixel for my next phone solely for GrapheneOS, it’s understandable for people looking to degoogle to not want to buy a Google phone. The developer I think is the bigger issue. Despite having since stepped down, his behavior went unchecked for long enough to make quite a bad reputation and leave a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths. While recovering from that will simply take time, I have wondered why they haven’t taken the opportunity to come out with a Graphene-lite for non-Pixels. Something like CarbonOS as secure as possible sans Google hardware. Could easily overtake Calyx/Lineage.

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      5 months ago

      I recommend people look at DivestOS, and will probably go this myself in the near future

      DivestOS is a security hardened version of Lineage and supports Bootloader relocking ans verified boot for at least several phones.

      the develop is also a very cool guy, very intelligent and does not sperg out like an autist like Micay

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      5 months ago

      The problematic dev never stepped down they still pull the same crazy shenanigans like banning anyone he disagrees with.

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      5 months ago

      I have wondered why they haven’t taken the opportunity to come out with a Graphene-lite for non-Pixels

      The issue I see is simply a lack of developers to do so. Trying to split the team between two mostly different projects would most likely cripple both.

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        5 months ago

        I think the issue is Play Integrity/SafetyNet. If you can’t lock the bootloader, you can’t get it without using illegal hacks. GrapheneOS only passes Basic Integrity but that’s just details

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        5 months ago

        @Charger8232 @DARbarian I don’t think that’s it, it’s more that they’re a project where you’re expected to buy a device for it, in this case a Pixel.

        Pixels have amazing security features and they don’t want to lose that.

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        5 months ago

        They tell you why right on their website. They dev for Pixels because it’s a stable platform with a predictable future.

        If you’re not going to listen to the devs, I don’t know what to say.