Yeah but then you have to wade through a million crappy Chinese products and be thankful when they merely don’t hold a charge (as opposed to exploding).
I’ve been through this back when batteries were replaceable, decent 3rd-party were not easy to find. Best you could hope for was that the original manufacturer kept making them. Nokia went as far as making one battery model work with multiple phone models.
Honest question, are phone batteries recycleable? Because if there’s going to be a ton of them being made I have to wonder what’s worst for the environment, replacing phones or replacing batteries.
I’m not sure if you’re being serious but replacing a phone is the same as replacing a battery, but worse for both consumer and environment. Of course you’d want to do some research before purchasing the first thing that crosses your path, but both me and my wife have done this before many times with very good results.
I had that issue with an Otterbox case. Bought it, it was bulky but protected the phone well. After 3 years the rubber tore near the charging port. They offer “lifetime” warranty (5 years). Well, wrote them for a replacement and they simply said nah, they don’t have that case any more for a phone this “old”. So they didn’t honor the warranty and just told me I’m out of luck.
What the hell do I buy an expensive phone case for when they can’t even honor a 5 year warranty? That was the last Otterbox for me, Spigen was the choice I went with afterwards. Can’t go wrong with a 10 buck phone case, I don’t care if it breaks in a few years.
When it comes to phones every manufacturer just gives you the finger if it’s 3+ years old it seems.
“It’s easier to make the phone waterproof if the battery is not user-serviceable” is a common argument; if it’s really true, way more phones should be waterproof even if not IP-certified (which understandably costs money and raises the end price).
Lol no doubt. Remember when Apple (and other manufacturers I guess) stopped including chargers in the box and they told us it was to reduce waste and was better for the environment? I wonder how many millions of dollars it saved them?
I think the proposal went through. The Deadline is 2027 though. But hopefully, manufacturers will change in preparation of this rule so we maybe see the effects earlier like we saw with usb c? Officially, obligatory usb c usage starts in at the end of 2024, but I think everyone but Apple has already switched and Apple said they’re planning to comply within the time frame.
About waterproofing: I’ve had to replace a G6’s glass back twice and both times the new cover had the seal pre-installed and the phone could still be cleaned with soap and water, no issue.
If the EU has its way we might all get this.
One can hope.
People can babble about water proofing, etc. There is no legitimate engineering problem.
The battery could power the device wirelessly at this point.
They could even claim they’re saving the environment by not including the battery after a couple release cycles.
Oof i didn’t think of them selling the battery separate possibly with an upcharge. monkeys paw curls
You probably also didn’t think about them no longer making the battery two years after releasing the phone.
Third party has always been the solution to this.
Yeah but then you have to wade through a million crappy Chinese products and be thankful when they merely don’t hold a charge (as opposed to exploding).
I’ve been through this back when batteries were replaceable, decent 3rd-party were not easy to find. Best you could hope for was that the original manufacturer kept making them. Nokia went as far as making one battery model work with multiple phone models.
Honest question, are phone batteries recycleable? Because if there’s going to be a ton of them being made I have to wonder what’s worst for the environment, replacing phones or replacing batteries.
I’m not sure if you’re being serious but replacing a phone is the same as replacing a battery, but worse for both consumer and environment. Of course you’d want to do some research before purchasing the first thing that crosses your path, but both me and my wife have done this before many times with very good results.
I had that issue with an Otterbox case. Bought it, it was bulky but protected the phone well. After 3 years the rubber tore near the charging port. They offer “lifetime” warranty (5 years). Well, wrote them for a replacement and they simply said nah, they don’t have that case any more for a phone this “old”. So they didn’t honor the warranty and just told me I’m out of luck.
What the hell do I buy an expensive phone case for when they can’t even honor a 5 year warranty? That was the last Otterbox for me, Spigen was the choice I went with afterwards. Can’t go wrong with a 10 buck phone case, I don’t care if it breaks in a few years.
When it comes to phones every manufacturer just gives you the finger if it’s 3+ years old it seems.
That should’ve been an FTC complaint.
Easy enough to do the same thing they do for cars and force them to make parts for 10 years.
Oooh devious! “We listened to our customers so now all new iPhones will have replaceable batteries.*”
That’s not a thing. Wireless charging is horribly inefficient and produces lots of heat, reducing performance and battery life.
Sure, but it is possible.
Might happen if it has some sort of benefit that we don’t know about for waterproofing separate batteries, even if it is indeed less efficient.
Even if it was a legitimate problem, it’s sad that only about half of the phones are certified waterproof even if almost all are sealed.
Not that the phones are warrantied against water damage even if they are rated as water resistant.
Why is that sad? I can understand why companies don’t want to pay just to get a certification when the phone itself is up to standards regardless
“It’s easier to make the phone waterproof if the battery is not user-serviceable” is a common argument; if it’s really true, way more phones should be waterproof even if not IP-certified (which understandably costs money and raises the end price).
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Samsung Galaxy S5 would like to have a word. IP67 while having user-detachable battery cover.
One of the very few phones like this.
Lol no doubt. Remember when Apple (and other manufacturers I guess) stopped including chargers in the box and they told us it was to reduce waste and was better for the environment? I wonder how many millions of dollars it saved them?
I think the proposal went through. The Deadline is 2027 though. But hopefully, manufacturers will change in preparation of this rule so we maybe see the effects earlier like we saw with usb c? Officially, obligatory usb c usage starts in at the end of 2024, but I think everyone but Apple has already switched and Apple said they’re planning to comply within the time frame.
About waterproofing: I’ve had to replace a G6’s glass back twice and both times the new cover had the seal pre-installed and the phone could still be cleaned with soap and water, no issue.
So my consumer preference for a sealed phone with a specific form factor simply doesn’t matter I guess?
Do you mean your consumer preference as it is currently dictated by companies?
Not I mean my preferences which are dictated by my individual agency.
Yeah sorry, you and that one other guy isn’t accounted for.
Tim.
Very well, either way more choice is more better.