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Does the post strike anyone else as “off”?
Like why is this person giving a full elevator pitch of who they are before they drop the bomb of “bluesky is toxic”?
You only need to look at the many BlueSky posts here to see that many people view BlueSky as an attack on federation. It’s only natural to see people on Mastodon shitting on BlueSky for taking what they see as their success away from them.
I think he is saying nobody is sending him threats and calling him slurs because he isn’t a minority, but still acknowledges the problem of others.
because bluesky has had a collective struggle session recently with the twitter posters migrating over and realising they’re not actually being welcomed in open arms, usually when they out themselves with shit like genocide denial and transphobia.
Haven’t seen a single bit of toxic stuff yet, my feed is all cute art and photography.
I read that at first as “cute art and pornography”
There’s definitely some of that in there too haha
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Critical mass of users on social media platforms.
Back on Usenet decades ago they called it the “Eternal September”.
It used to be that every September, fresh University students would gain access to Usenet for the first time, and there would be a rough adjustment period where they don’t yet know the ropes, the lingo, the etiquette, the unspoken rules, and the expectant decorum, etc. Then one year, home internet service providers made Usenet accessible to ANYONE who subscribed… And from that day forward, it was like September every day, all year round.
Now the general riffraff are flocking to bsky because even THEY see that Twitter is sinking. This surge of new users have brought all their bad habits with them. Bsky must adapt or it too will fall.
Dude needs to learn about blocklists if that’s what his feed looks like. There definitely is a cesspool but it’s pretty isolated.
There are exceptions of course but IMHO, you shouldn’t block toxic contents, you call them out instead. Doing so basically puts a red flag to any would-be readers that this person and the associated content is harmful and dangerous.
Calling out bad actors gives them an audience. Nine of your readers will agree that this person is a piece of shit but the tenth will think “hmm maybe there’s some truth to this” and follow that bad actor. And that’s how it propagates. No, nothing but blocks and silent treatment to people feeding on outrage.
In public sure, but this is the internet, where the Streisand effect is the unifying order of the week. It’s why the age old saying “bad press is better than no press” exists
No because Bluesky has block lists so all that stuff is so easily filtered. It’s honestly really lovely.
Honestly I want to believe this but I’ve had 0 bigoted accounts ever come into my bluesky replies, when on twitter this would be a daily occurrence.
I’ve met one tankie, and blocked them, but that’s it, and I have 1.7k bluesky posts and 8k followers.
In my time in mastodon, I didn’t experience bigots either, but neither have I in bluesky, and I’m an easy target, I’m disabled and my face looks deformed, it’s my profile picture, while on twitter I’d get snide remarks every day, it’s never been the case on bluesky, and I had one mastodon user make a joke (but that’s just one user).
What’s your handle and is it bridged to fedi?
I am bridged, but I prefer not to share my handle as my Mastodon and Bluesky accounts are have full name, while I want to keep the lemmy ones anonymous.
Ah pity. Well maybe you can post to your 8K followers to follow the brid.gy account as well so we can find them. Sadly the locked-down-PMs of bluesky means most people don’t even get the invite.
That’s a good shout. I think I’ll do that in the coming weeks :).
It’s just a question of time. Every platform will devolve into either obscurity or cesspool.
perhaps. but the open source moderation list feature seems pretty cool, hopefully it’ll help.
This person is a liar and just wants the Mastodon pat on the back. For some reason people on the fediverse can’t just enjoy their platforms and work to make them better. They have to lie about Bluesky and Nostr. I’ve been on Bluesky since the beginning. I’ve seen significantly more toxic people and content on fedi than I’ve ever have on Bluesky. People are happy to be away from X, they’re trying to promote a positive and supportive culture. There’s tonnes of minorities on Bluesky
It’s the eternal cycle:
- Small platform has quality experience because most users are genuine and engaged, and user base is too small to be “worth it” for corporations and trolls
- Platform grows slowly until it reaches tipping point of popularity and network effect
- The platform has explosive growth, drawing interest of corporations and trolls
- Corporations enshittify while trolls crank out misinformation and rage bait
- Users reach tipping point and leave large platform to smaller platforms that don’t have corporate interests and trolls
- Repeat due to network effect
For a lot of Twitter users, this is their first collapse and migration. Usually these events make people more mobile in the future.
I wonder if and when they’ll start moving on from Bluesky? What event will trigger it next time? How much the experience will have to fall apart before they pack up and move? My money is on ‘way less than last time’.
I hope you’re right, but I feel like you’re putting too much faith in the average person.
I mean, it’s still going to be years. But maybe when it happens, it won’t be so damn sticky next time.
Here’s hoping you’re right.
Has been happening for three decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
just because the middle aged white guy with terrible opinions isn’t catered to on platforms where the first users were ones fed up with middle aged white guys with terrible opinions, doesn’t mean there’s a problem, if anything it indicates federated social media is resistant to bullshit
Yes. It enforces a bubble by its very nature. There is no main feed, by default you see people you follow and posts they interact with. I don’t have a problem with that. I wouldn’t go into a pub with racists, and xenophobes, so I shouldn’t have to do it online.
Anyway, first thing I did was sign up for a couple of blocks lists, and what saw was awful people.
Also, if you look a the moderation settings, there is a lot of objectional content that is or can be hidden basic of topic flags. This is content that on any sane networks should be banned and the users suspended. But of Bluesky its just hidden from view.
It’s basically a microcosm of the Internet. It’s not the Good Place for sure, and anyone who thinks that is deluded.
the original post strikes me as shit stirring. I just opened blue sky for the first time and there was nothing “toxic” it was mostly landscape photos, memes, cat pics and news.
No.
Also, it’s so toxic yet he’s using the account still and bridged his fediverse account. If I encountered next level toxicity that’s not what I’d be doing
The hell is masto? Mastocytosis? Mastopexy?
Mastodon, the Fediverse replacement for Twitter, like how Lemmy is the Fediverse replacement for Reddit.
Yet another case in point of how shitty mastodon’s name is. Even its abbreviations are trash. The best time to change its name was before it started. The second best time is NOW. And the longer they go without fixing this, the worse it will be. As long as mastodon never rebrands, it is doomed to fall behind scummy oligarch controlled trash like threads.
The trolls and fascists do not exist on Twitter to hang out with other trolls and fascists. They’re there hunting for liberal tears. When their prey leaves, they follow.
Bluekky has been open about not moderating their platform. They’ve provided users tools to not see the shit they’re letting through the door – which, yes, is currently better than Twitter, where the current ownership believes that ‘free speech’ is deserving of a captive audience – but if the bsky algorithm thinks you have something – anything, really – in common with the Nazis, they’ll get shunted into your timeline, leaving you to play wack-a-mole.
