• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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    That’s only if you download the game and store it in a way that won’t degrade, when their servers are offline, you can’t download it anymore…

    This is such a red herring reason, and I don’t know why people hold onto this like it matters, at all.

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      I’ve read through your various comments, and I’m not sure you see the difference here.

      With other platforms such as Steam, you download the Steam program that acts as a single installer for every game on the platform. You have to be logged into a valid Steam account to download a game from their single installer. If you use a new computer, you have to log into Steam and download from Steam. On GoG, you download an installer per game. Those installers can be transferred to any device and download the games even if the computer has never logged into GoG or even connected to the internet. You can store all the installers on an external drive, which you can’t do for Steam.

      If Steam eventually dies or your account is banned, you can never install those games again. If GoG eventually dies or your account is banned, you are correct that you can’t download new installers, but you can use any installer you have already downloaded.

      If Steam dies or your account is banned, the game you already have downloaded may not even work anymore due to DRM (this is on a game-by-game basis). If GoG dies or your account is banned, your games are guaranteed to still run since they are not dependant on GoG DRM (with a small list of exceptions people aren’t happy about).

      You may not care about any of this, but there’s a decent chunk of people who want to keep their games regardless of anything the purchasing company does.

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      when their servers are offline, you can’t download it anymore…

      I have no idea what else you would be expecting?

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        That’s my point… it literally doesn’t matter that they can revoke you license or not, when the servers are down, you’re fucked regardless.

        Hence why it’s a pointless argument to bring up…

        What else do you think I meant here?

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          But you don’t need to download it again. Keep good backup practices and it’s eternal. If you lose it, that’s the same as losing a physical object you bought at a store. Or if you don’t maintain your backup like you would clean and maintain a physical object you bought, it’s your fault you lose it. I can buy a game from GOG right now and keep it and use it until the day I die, then my grandchildren can use it after that.

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          You obviously don’t even know how it works.

          when the servers are down, you’re fucked regardless.

          As long as you keep the files you don’t have to access their servers to play it again. That’s exactly the same as even physical media. It’s not like a company will send you a new DVD for free if you throw out the one you bought.

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      That’s true for pretty much every product you buy.

      The difference is that Ikea isn’t going to take your shelf when they feel like it or if they run out of money. Neither is GOG. That’s why it matters.

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        I didn’t know IKEA made video games?

        And why does that matter? When they go out of business you can’t download even if you do or don’t have a license.

        That’s why it matters.

        Because you now have a game that you don’t need a license that you still won’t be able to access or play? So how does that make a single fucking difference lmfao.

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          I didn’t know IKEA made video games?

          They don’t, they make furniture. You clearly don’t understand metaphors.

          When they go out of business you can’t download even if you do or don’t have a license.

          If Ikea goes out of business, you can’t buy their products anymore and the ones you do have you need to protect and make sure they don’t degrade. Your argument is true for every single product, digital or physical.

          The games from GOG don’t have any DRM so you can very easily make copies of the game and safely store them elsewhere, even on new computers.

          Games that do have DRM lock you down to verify that you’re allowed to play their game, which severely limits how you can use your own product. If that game publisher or developer goes out if business than you can’t play the game that you already have, even if it’s kept “pristine”.

          People who bought The Sims 4 couldn’t play their offline game because the DRM stopped them, meanwhile people didn’t buy the game were free to play it when they wanted. The legitimate buyers of the game were punished simply because of DRM.

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          It’s like you’ve never heard of archival or how to keep data safe, protected, or backed up.

          Also intentionally missing the valid point when compared to physical items just shoots yourself in the foot for any further arguments.

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      Ummm… That’s the case for disc games too of only being able to retain possession once it’s shipped to you and you properly store it. Or any tangible good for that matter. I don’t what point you are trying to make.

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          That GOG downloaded installers can’t be forcibly deactivated or taken away? Your phrasing is confusing so I don’t think people are able to tell whether you think GOG installers are a good or bad thing, or acting like it is useless and provides no further benefit than DRM alternatives.

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            How can the installers access a file that no longer exists since the servers are shut down and the files can no longer be accessed…?

            My phrasing is confusing since the point literally is fucking pointless, it’s moot, doesn’t matter since it can’t be accessed licensed or not.

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              The offline installers literally are the files to install the game.

              It’s as close as we can get in this day to having the disc and installing from disc long after the publisher was bought out and absorbed so many times nobody truly knows exactly who owns the rights to the game anymore. As long as your disc (in this case, offline installer) was stored safely and is still readable you can install it on a compatible computer (and that’s often the harder part is finding a compatible computer!)

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              You are just ignoring that the installers can be downloaded and saved. Or even just the game directory can continue to work.

              For people who value that it is a difference. Even how the game works is different with how some don’t work offline or lose ability to function offline once verification expires compared to non DRM counterparts.

              You are an idiot acting as if DRM and DRM free is the same as though some license terms is the only determining factor.

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                You are just ignoring that the installers can be downloaded and saved. Or even just the game directory can continue to work.

                Dude, no I am not, my very first comment in this chain talked about the needing to download and store it in a non-degrading way…. Fucking hell dude lmfao.

                What point are you trying to make here then if I already covered this at the very start?