The Firefox ToC discussion pushed me down the browser engine rabbit hole (again). Have you had a chance to daily drive some really good but obscure web engine that is not Gecko (Firefox), WebKit (Apple) and Blink (Chromium)? How viable is it for a complete switch - this includes banking, chatting, logging into websites, etc.
Edit: Added link to the Firefox discussion to give better context to my question.
Falkon for clearweb Librewolf for Tor Netsurf for i2p
Isn’t accessing TOR network from any other browser than Tor Browser a serious anonymity risk?
Reminds me to check out lynx again.
What’s the Firefox ToC discussion you mention?
It is their data now boy
I don’t think there are any viable engines other than the three you mention. Other browsers than the three you mention are viable, I am typing this in LibreWolf, but they are all based on one of these three engines.
I recently tried Ladybird and it crashes e.g. when I try to access my Lemmy instance. Definitely not viable yet in 2025, but this doesn’t mean it must remain so.
seamonkey but it’s pretty hard to use without much love nowadays with so many incompatible websites. It’s a perfect mail client tho.
Just get Firefox ESR with arkenfox, that should be enough.
I’m going to stick with some form of Firefox fork, personally. Chromium forks are questionable, as if I recall right they include a binary blob provided by google, which could be hiding god knows what.
Firefox is fully open source, so any code supporting this potential data harvesting can’t hide, and will be removed by most forks.
with the recent news of a ToS from FF which forks would you recommend as a daily driver to replace FF?
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Librewolf has been solid for me. I’ve seen others plug waterfox as well
I used librewolf until there was some concern about them updating in a timely manner.
Now I used Firefox with Phoenix to maybe get the best of both worlds and IronFox on mobile.
I’ve used librewolf and it seems good but I’m not a browser expert.
I’m trying out waterfox for mobile and librewolf for desktop. No complaints so far
Just don’t try to schedule a video for publication in LibreWolf; its time zone obfuscation will totally have it publish at an unexpected time unless you figure that out first! I’ve been on Waterfox for both mobile and desktop and have enjoyed them equally.
where did you get Waterfox on Android? The Playstore or F droid?
Used F-Droid to download aurora store (open source client for the play store) and used Aurora for waterfox…
Deskstop Mullvad and librewolf
Android fennec
I’ve been using IronFox on mobile since Mull went away, but I’m ready to hear why that’s a bad option from anyone who knows better.
So far its worked very similarly to Mull, in that I’ve had no issues with it so far. I don’t do banking or financial shit on my phone though, so I can’t comment on how well it works for that functionality.
On one of my OSes, I still use Brave.
Brave is a series scam company.
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No real data to backup this claim other than complaints about their addons which can be disabled, and their CEO doesn’t have the best morals and principles. Like we all believe the exact same things everyday all day.
Multiple highly reputable non profits and other sources show the browser itself performs as one of the best when it comes to privacy. Leave the negativity against Nestle.
Yeah; unfortunately on that particular computer, it’s the only modern browser that still functions. I don’t trust it with anything.
If the question had been “what trustworthy browsers do you use?” I wouldn’t have mentioned it.
holy shit fearless freep
Articfox librewolf
Please don’t bank with a bleeding edge web engine that isn’t forked from one that’s been around for decades. It’s really not secure to use things that people haven’t had time to attack yet.
Fennec (Firefox based)
I use qutebrowser, it’s a keyboard driven browser that uses QtWebEngine (based on Chromium).
