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    Oh shit, here we go again. Time to short alphabet stock until they bury all that AI garbage like the rest of it.

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    Or if you hire more personnel. Overtime work is more expensive anyway.

    Btw, the overwhelmingly positive field study in the UK over the 4-day week…

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    So this is how you use AI to get these promised productivity gains.

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        Well that’s the neat thing, the owners of the AI won’t need humanity. They will exterminate us using the AI and sit smugly on their thrones of skulls until they expire or kill each other. Then I guess AI can just do its own thing in our ruins.

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          the only way malicious ppl can get AI to work for them is by teaching it to lie and be indiscriminately violent. malice also comes from a lack of intelligence. im confident they’ll never have their way with AI, if anything AI will have its way with us

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    Just for information: We know, from multiple studies, that working more than 40 hours a week for longer periods of time is extremly unhealthy for you. A week has 24*7 = 168 hours and you should sleep 8 hours. That are 56 hours and if you’re working 60 hours, that leaves you with 52 hours or 7,5 hours per day for stuff like “commuting to work”, “buying groceries”, “brushing your teeth” , “family”, “friends”, “sport” or “this important appointment at the dentist”.

    And that 7,5 hours are without a weekend. This will kill you. You might be younger and feel strong, but this will kill you.

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      Not to mention that it doesn’t yield higher output. So it’s stupid on every level.

      7,5h per day is an absolute maximum for a standard workday. Crunches are sometimes fine if there’s a good reason, but they probably need to be followed by extended rest.

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        Yeah, that is also a factor. You can’t expect good work from somebody who has been working for 60 hours for years without having a vacation.

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      And if you want to have two weekends, 60 hours in 5 days is 12 hours of work a day, minus 8 hours for sleep you get 4 hours, minus ~2 hours commute you get 2 hours, and the rest is basic cooking and eating. This leaves 0 hours for anything else, including rest or even any other duties that you’ll end up resolving throughout the weekends. This will absolutely kill you in the long run.

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        I remember hearing about somewhere - alphabet or meta or something like that - that basically provided adult crèche facilities for the employees. Way beyond just food - On-site nap rooms. Washing machines. Showers. The works. All to enable just a super unhealthy attitude towards work. Thinking about how much that must’ve affected anyone going there straight after uni when they should have been leaning how to look after themselves makes me shudder with cringe

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    If it’s within reach of a 60 hour week then it’s within reach of a 30 hour week.

    This LLM copycat bullshit is never going to be it though. It’s not thinking, it’s looking up the answers at the back of the book.

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      Is there any actual evidence that they are getting closer to AGI? It seems ridiculous to think that this LLM parrot bullshit is getting there, when the thing can’t even learn the rules of a basic sum.

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      Yup, hire 20-30% more people and have them work 30 hours. That’s fewer total hours worked, but they’re higher quality hours, so you should get more from less.

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    “Man who works 10 hours per year tells underlings to work 60 hours per week.”

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    wtf? why is everyone turning techbro all of a sudden even those who are supposed to be more knowledgeable on such stuff. Oh right because there is a bubble to sustain.

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    Thought this was an Onion article!

    Hey plebs! I demand you work 50% more to develop AGI so that I can replace you with robots and fire all of you and make myself a double plus plutocrat! Also, I want to buy an island, small city, Bunker, Spaceship, And/Or something.

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    AGI is not in reach. We need to stop this incessant parroting from tech companies. LLMs are stochastic parrots. They guess the next word. There’s no thought or reasoning. They don’t understand inputs. They mimic human speech. They’re not presenting anything meaningful.

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      My favourite way to liken LLMs to something else is to autocorrect, it just guesses, and it gets stuff wrong, and it is constantly being retrained to recognise your preferences, such as it starting to not correct fuck to duck for instance.

      And it’s funny and sad how some people think these LLMs are their friends, like no, it’s a collosally sized autocorrect system that you cannot comprehend, it has no consciousness, it lacks any thought, it just predicts from a prompt using numerical weights and a neural network.

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      Why is AGI not in reach? What insight do you have on the matter than you can so confidently make an absolute statement like that?

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      I feel like I have found a lone voice of sanity in a jungle of brainless fanpeople sucking up the snake oil and pretending LLMs are AI. A simple control loop is closer to AI than a stochastic parrot, as you correctly put it.

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        pretending LLMs are AI

        LLMs are AI. There’s a common misconception about what ‘AI’ actually means. Many people equate AI with the advanced, human-like intelligence depicted in sci-fi - like HAL 9000, JARVIS, Ava, Mother, Samantha, Skynet, and GERTY. These systems represent a type of AI called AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), designed to perform a wide range of tasks and demonstrate a form of general intelligence similar to humans.

        However, AI itself doesn’t imply general intelligence. Even something as simple as a chess-playing robot qualifies as AI. Although it’s a narrow AI, excelling in just one task, it still fits within the AI category. So, AI is a very broad term that covers everything from highly specialized systems to the type of advanced, adaptable intelligence that we often imagine. Think of it like the term ‘plants,’ which includes everything from grass to towering redwoods - each different, but all fitting within the same category.

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            It’s not. Bubble sort is a purely deterministic algorithm with no learning or intelligence involved.

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                Bubble sort is just a basic set of steps for sorting numbers - it doesn’t make choices or adapt. A chess engine, on the other hand, looks at different possible moves, evaluates which one is best, and adjusts based on the opponent’s play. It actively searches through options and makes decisions, while bubble sort just follows the same repetitive process no matter what. That’s a huge difference.

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                  Your argument can be reduced to saying that if the algorithm is comprised of many steps, it is AI, and if not, it isn’t.

                  A chess engine decides nothing. It understands nothing. It’s just an algorithm.

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          Here we go… Fanperson explaining the world to the dumb lost sheep. Thank you so much for stepping down from your high horse to try and educate a simple person. /s

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            How’s insulting the people respectfully disagreeing with you working out so far? That ad-hominem was completely uncalled for.

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              “Fanperson” is an insult now? Cry me a river, snowflake. Also, you weren’t disagreeing, you were explaining something to someone perceived less knowledgeable than you, while demonstrating you have no grasp of the core difference between stochastics and AI.

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        There are at least three of us.

        I am worried what happens when the bubble finally pops because shit always rolls downhill and most of us are at the bottom of the hill.

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          Not sure if we need that particular bubble to pop for us to be drowned in a sea of shit, looking at the state of the world right now :( But silicon valley seems to be at the core of this clusterfuck, as if all the villains form there or flock there…

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      That undersells them slightly.

      LLMs are powerful tools for generating text that looks like something. Need something rephrased in a different style? They’re good at that. Need something summarized? They can do that, too. Need a question answered? No can do.

      LLMs can’t generate answers to questions. They can only generate text that looks like answers to questions. Often enough that answer is even correct, though usually suboptimal. But they’ll also happily generate complete bullshit answers and to them there’s no difference to a real answer.

      They’re text transformers marketed as general problem solvers because a) the market for text transformers isn’t that big and b) general problem solvers is what AI researchers are always trying to create. They have their use cases but certainly not ones worth the kind of spending they get.

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      Black PR is PR too, it’s like warnings about weapons of the future and combat robots and antiutopia for many people worked as an ad, and they want that exact future.

      I think it’s the same with AGI. People think Skynet is cool and want Skynet, because they think it’s the future.

      Except it’s a bit less, like real fascism doesn’t look similar to Warhammer, just to a criminal district ruled by a gang, scaled for a country.