I love the Strange Planet cartoons, but just FYI the author, Nathan Pyle, is unapologetically pro-life, publicly engages in some really harmful rhetoric surrounding women’s reproductive rights, and refuses to listen to scientifically irrefutable facts regarding abortion, just because he and his wife are Christian. He says they vote Democrat anyways because they’re “troubled by what the republican party has become.” But somehow I really really doubt that. I wouldn’t be surprised if they supported the dismantling of Roe v. Wade under the guise of freedom of religious beliefs. The odds of them believing in the separation of church and state while simultaneously attending events like the March for Life are slim to none.
I welcome your take. I am very pro choice and not religious. That said I still that the comics have value. To my knowledge he doesn’t espouse these views in the comics and I think that is enough of a separation to be ok. Similarly it’s ok to still like Dilbert comics or listen to John Lennon.
Sometimes you have to separate the art from the artist, lest you will cut yourself off from valuable work (when it doesn’t try to shove these views on you).
I’m not sure I’d assign any intrinsic value to the comics, though I do enjoy them. But yes, there are many artists whose work I still enjoy despite knowing they’re a shitty person.
I just don’t think it’s a great idea to then give these artists tacit support by creating a Reddit/Tumblr/Lemmy community solely for them.
I made the first comment after seeing someone else in this thread refer people to a community for this artist. He doesn’t need the ego boost. Let him fade into obscurity along with every other misogynist who hides behind religion (as if that weren’t, in and of itself, an immediate “tell.”) Let his name pop up in the occasional comment section only for people to go “who?”
I don’t even know if he’s still making these comics, but he definitely still has an online presence that he has previously used to advocate for the removal of women’s rights. Let that be his legacy. Start a community devoted to figuring out how a sentient festering anal polyp could ever possibly create something so cute and innocent.
Ok let’s be honest. He’s said he’s pro life, but he’s said it’s not his job to impose that opinion on anyone else. You have to respect that or you are literally saying everyone has to think the same as you do.
I have to respect the fact that he doesn’t think I deserve bodily autonomy? I disagree. People can and do have harmful beliefs. They are harmful because they shape the way that person views and interacts with others, within the confines of a social structure. If he wants to go off grid and not benefit from any social services, I’ll help him pack the moving truck myself. But he’s not going to, which means he’s benefiting from rights, laws, and services that are meant to protect everyone, even people who he doesn’t think deserve them.
Pro-life individuals are so insidious, they managed to have a basic human right rescinded in more than half the country.
Was he solely responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade? Of course not. Did he directly impose his opinion on anyone else? Maybe, maybe not. We only have his word to go on, and I’m sorry but that’s not worth shit.
My point is, he’s not just sitting there twiddling his thumbs either, he’s using his platform to publicly support big institutions (March for Life) that work diligently behind the scenes to oppress women.
Like I said, I enjoy the comics. They’re cute and funny and I don’t get the vibe that he’s using them to be preacy about abortion. But he is 100% a shitty person with offensive, harmful beliefs and no, I do NOT have to respect that.
No, he very explicitly says it’s not his right to tell you what to do or think. You’re literally taking that wrong, and I think you might be doing it disingenuously but I apologize if that’s wrong.
Opinions don’t matter. Actions matter. Give me an example of someone doing something wrong and I’ll grab a pitchfork. People are allowed to disagree with your morality, regardless of your obvious attempt to claim the moral high ground via vacuous means.
I was going to reply, thought better of it, and then read this comment.
Opinions don’t matter. Actions matter.
And supporting an action which is harmful gives support to those who are undertaking the harmful action. Even if you disagree with the right to elective abortions, there are states and countries which have banned abortions in medically emergent situations. Their actions will be responsible for 2 deaths instead of one in these situations. Get off the cross, we need the wood.
He’s a piece of shit. Just because you look up to shit and consider it worthy of your respect, that doesn’t mean you get to demand that respect from others.
I love the Strange Planet cartoons, but just FYI the author, Nathan Pyle, is unapologetically pro-life, publicly engages in some really harmful rhetoric surrounding women’s reproductive rights, and refuses to listen to scientifically irrefutable facts regarding abortion, just because he and his wife are Christian. He says they vote Democrat anyways because they’re “troubled by what the republican party has become.” But somehow I really really doubt that. I wouldn’t be surprised if they supported the dismantling of Roe v. Wade under the guise of freedom of religious beliefs. The odds of them believing in the separation of church and state while simultaneously attending events like the March for Life are slim to none.
Well, I certainly didn’t know that. I’m immeasurably disappointed. Thank you for spreading the word!
I welcome your take. I am very pro choice and not religious. That said I still that the comics have value. To my knowledge he doesn’t espouse these views in the comics and I think that is enough of a separation to be ok. Similarly it’s ok to still like Dilbert comics or listen to John Lennon.
Sometimes you have to separate the art from the artist, lest you will cut yourself off from valuable work (when it doesn’t try to shove these views on you).
I’m not sure I’d assign any intrinsic value to the comics, though I do enjoy them. But yes, there are many artists whose work I still enjoy despite knowing they’re a shitty person.
I just don’t think it’s a great idea to then give these artists tacit support by creating a Reddit/Tumblr/Lemmy community solely for them.
I made the first comment after seeing someone else in this thread refer people to a community for this artist. He doesn’t need the ego boost. Let him fade into obscurity along with every other misogynist who hides behind religion (as if that weren’t, in and of itself, an immediate “tell.”) Let his name pop up in the occasional comment section only for people to go “who?”
I don’t even know if he’s still making these comics, but he definitely still has an online presence that he has previously used to advocate for the removal of women’s rights. Let that be his legacy. Start a community devoted to figuring out how a sentient festering anal polyp could ever possibly create something so cute and innocent.
The comics will live on without him.
yet another content creator to avoid :/
Ok let’s be honest. He’s said he’s pro life, but he’s said it’s not his job to impose that opinion on anyone else. You have to respect that or you are literally saying everyone has to think the same as you do.
I have to respect the fact that he doesn’t think I deserve bodily autonomy? I disagree. People can and do have harmful beliefs. They are harmful because they shape the way that person views and interacts with others, within the confines of a social structure. If he wants to go off grid and not benefit from any social services, I’ll help him pack the moving truck myself. But he’s not going to, which means he’s benefiting from rights, laws, and services that are meant to protect everyone, even people who he doesn’t think deserve them.
Pro-life individuals are so insidious, they managed to have a basic human right rescinded in more than half the country.
Was he solely responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade? Of course not. Did he directly impose his opinion on anyone else? Maybe, maybe not. We only have his word to go on, and I’m sorry but that’s not worth shit.
My point is, he’s not just sitting there twiddling his thumbs either, he’s using his platform to publicly support big institutions (March for Life) that work diligently behind the scenes to oppress women.
Like I said, I enjoy the comics. They’re cute and funny and I don’t get the vibe that he’s using them to be preacy about abortion. But he is 100% a shitty person with offensive, harmful beliefs and no, I do NOT have to respect that.
The audacity!
No, he very explicitly says it’s not his right to tell you what to do or think. You’re literally taking that wrong, and I think you might be doing it disingenuously but I apologize if that’s wrong.
Opinions don’t matter. Actions matter. Give me an example of someone doing something wrong and I’ll grab a pitchfork. People are allowed to disagree with your morality, regardless of your obvious attempt to claim the moral high ground via vacuous means.
I was going to reply, thought better of it, and then read this comment.
And supporting an action which is harmful gives support to those who are undertaking the harmful action. Even if you disagree with the right to elective abortions, there are states and countries which have banned abortions in medically emergent situations. Their actions will be responsible for 2 deaths instead of one in these situations. Get off the cross, we need the wood.
My standards for respect are not yours to decide.
Then you’re being disingenuous at best and a hypocrite at worst and you’re not worth engaging with.
He’s a piece of shit. Just because you look up to shit and consider it worthy of your respect, that doesn’t mean you get to demand that respect from others.
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