I’d have agreed with you if he was the direct cause of some people death, like that asshole that got Luigi-ed, but he is not. He sure took decisions that ended up making subpart games, fucked over devs, and all.
He’s a capitalist shark like there are thousands of others, but does that warrant death?
People like you are the cause why fascism is on the rise. No humanity, no regrets, no actions taken, until it affects you personally.
Few billionaires are direct causes of anyone dying. However, they’re always indirect causes of lots of people dying, by their own choice.
Is there a meaningful difference between shooting somebody and poisoning the food and water of 10 random people? Maybe. Maybe not. Ultimately, you’re choosing to take people’s lives, knowing the outcome.
I don’t think people care about whether you’re a ‘direct’ cause, as much as they care about whether or not you’re a deliberate cause.
All of us will probably cause some deaths as we go about our lives. But at no point do most of us make a decision to end someone’s life. Whereas billionaires do make the decisions, and they do it completely voluntarily, seeking profit. They often seem happy about the decisions too.
Hard to say. Suicides rarely have a single cause. A layoff can be a trigger, but you rarely kill yourself from that alone if you life a pretty decent life outside of work.
Usually I go with “you are responsible of your own actions and words, not what other do or says about it”. So unless he personally pushed someone to suicide, or ordered someone to be bullied to the point of suicide, no, I don’t think he’d be responsible.
And what are you talking about? Our current case of fascism is a direct result of unregulated capitalism, courtesy of neoliberalism.
Not gonna argue on that because it is true. Still, fascism wouldn’t strive as it does without those who only logic is “I don’t like them so he deserves to die”.
That’s the logic behind german innaction when jews were getting oppressed, and I prefer fight that now than wait for it to be the majority logic.
Being angry at capitalist excess is a good thing. Saying that someone dying horribly is ok because you disagreed with how it ran is business isn’t.
Fascist rely on that communitarian instinct to trives. Nazism rise came partly from clever propaganda gymnastic.
To the rich, they said the problem was bolcheviks who spread unrest into the masses. To the poors, they said it was the rich jews who fattened on their labor.
To both they found a scapegoat remote enough to avoid having them interact enough to realize fascism bullshit, and that’s how they won.
Fascism always tries to dehumanise part of society to make them the scapegoat for real issues, and gain momentum.
Refusing those easy narrative is the first and more important step to refuse fascism.
you’ve ‘moderated’ multiple comments in this thread
Both broke the community rules, and many more probably does, but we (the mod team, I’m not the only one out there) only removed the worst of them
i have no idea why you feel the need to defend rich trash
this wasn’t a good man
I defend my humanity, which includes having the minimal decency of not dancing on somone else grave. Even the worst asshole on earth deserves decency in death. That’s includes you.
but you expecting people to give up their lives to rehabilitate shit birds is pretty lmao
If it works, it is worth it.
and unless you yourself are doing so, it’s also hypocritical
I volunteers for other causes (helping elders, sometimes migrants, to learn to use computers, as well as occasionally helping my dad who volunteers at the red cross). Everyone got a way they can help others, but I doubt a klansman would listen to someone like me, despite being a white male.
expecting anyone to dox themselves to full internet to prove a point is crazy naive and even more lmao
I never expected that. I just said that laughing at someone contribution to society is at best petty.
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I’d have agreed with you if he was the direct cause of some people death, like that asshole that got Luigi-ed, but he is not. He sure took decisions that ended up making subpart games, fucked over devs, and all.
He’s a capitalist shark like there are thousands of others, but does that warrant death?
People like you are the cause why fascism is on the rise. No humanity, no regrets, no actions taken, until it affects you personally.
Few billionaires are direct causes of anyone dying. However, they’re always indirect causes of lots of people dying, by their own choice.
Is there a meaningful difference between shooting somebody and poisoning the food and water of 10 random people? Maybe. Maybe not. Ultimately, you’re choosing to take people’s lives, knowing the outcome.
I don’t think people care about whether you’re a ‘direct’ cause, as much as they care about whether or not you’re a deliberate cause.
All of us will probably cause some deaths as we go about our lives. But at no point do most of us make a decision to end someone’s life. Whereas billionaires do make the decisions, and they do it completely voluntarily, seeking profit. They often seem happy about the decisions too.
And in the current case, did he cause any direct or indirect death? Did he chose to cause someone death?
Depends. What do you think about a suicide as a response from being laid off?
Hard to say. Suicides rarely have a single cause. A layoff can be a trigger, but you rarely kill yourself from that alone if you life a pretty decent life outside of work.
Usually I go with “you are responsible of your own actions and words, not what other do or says about it”. So unless he personally pushed someone to suicide, or ordered someone to be bullied to the point of suicide, no, I don’t think he’d be responsible.
The concept of “kill line” is incompatible with such a view point.
Just an FYI, this is literally how every single one of them justifies their evil to themselves.
It doesn’t warrant death, no. But people can cheer the death of an awful person without saying “hey we should keep the streak going!”
And what are you talking about? Our current case of fascism is a direct result of unregulated capitalism, courtesy of neoliberalism.
Not gonna argue on that because it is true. Still, fascism wouldn’t strive as it does without those who only logic is “I don’t like them so he deserves to die”. That’s the logic behind german innaction when jews were getting oppressed, and I prefer fight that now than wait for it to be the majority logic.
This is a straw man, I don’t see anyone here making this actual argument.
what the fuck kinda apologist bullshit is blaming fascism on people angry about capitalism excess and not the actual fascist
the fucking mental gymnastics
Being angry at capitalist excess is a good thing. Saying that someone dying horribly is ok because you disagreed with how it ran is business isn’t.
Fascist rely on that communitarian instinct to trives. Nazism rise came partly from clever propaganda gymnastic. To the rich, they said the problem was bolcheviks who spread unrest into the masses. To the poors, they said it was the rich jews who fattened on their labor.
To both they found a scapegoat remote enough to avoid having them interact enough to realize fascism bullshit, and that’s how they won.
Fascism always tries to dehumanise part of society to make them the scapegoat for real issues, and gain momentum. Refusing those easy narrative is the first and more important step to refuse fascism.
i didn’t kill him
i didn’t wish him dead
his own excess killed him (the number of rich people dying to flight related stuff is crazy disproportionate)
don’t white wash the harm this man has done
expecting people to be respectful about his death is pathetic
blaming fascism on not the fascist themselves is worse
and censoring comments is just sad
I was talking about OC and why I censored his comment after it got reported multiple times. My bad for not having been more explicit.
you’ve ‘moderated’ multiple comments in this thread
i have no idea why you feel the need to defend rich trash
this wasn’t a good man
Both broke the community rules, and many more probably does, but we (the mod team, I’m not the only one out there) only removed the worst of them
I defend my humanity, which includes having the minimal decency of not dancing on somone else grave. Even the worst asshole on earth deserves decency in death. That’s includes you.
You and I were taught different Decencies.
Explain to class how the Epstein Class are decent?
yea i’m not ruining people lives for profit, i’m not abusing those under my power, this dude was doing both
it’s 2026, look around at the suffering in this country alone from people like him, saying nothing of the literal harm he’s done himself
but people being happy he’s dead and the world is a better place is what triggers you
Agreed…
It’s crazy it’s so controversial. Don’t dance on peoples graves.
there is a subset of humanity that worships wealth and they are about as intelligent as you would expect them to be
arguing with them is about as useful as doing so with maga
You’d be surprised how some of those irredeemable people can, in fact be reasoned with, and even can change their views.
I remember the story of a black man befriending a bunch of klansmen and making them leave the organization.
lol just dedicate your life to it, no big deal!
Which is way more respectable than laughing about it behing internet anonymity.
sure, same I feel about a genuine priest dedicated to serving people, i have the utmost respect for them
but you expecting people to give up their lives to rehabilitate shit birds is pretty lmao
and unless you yourself are doing so, it’s also hypocritical
and i assure you i tell these people to their face in real life, many seem so confused
expecting anyone to dox themselves to full internet to prove a point is crazy naive and even more lmao
If it works, it is worth it.
I volunteers for other causes (helping elders, sometimes migrants, to learn to use computers, as well as occasionally helping my dad who volunteers at the red cross). Everyone got a way they can help others, but I doubt a klansman would listen to someone like me, despite being a white male.
I never expected that. I just said that laughing at someone contribution to society is at best petty.
i volunteer as well but it takes a special type to put up with people like this, i know because i live in a state around them
unless you are literally dealing with this directly i don’t really care to hear some hollier than thou bullshit
dealing with racist, sexist, bigoted fucks daily is exhausting
imagine defending their behavior even indirectly
And where am I defending their behavior? I just told they can change, and are not unredeemable. Not that their bigotry is ok.