It’s “shakeout” time as losses of Netflix rivals top $5 billion | Disney, Warner, Comcast, and Paramount are contemplating cuts, possible mergers.::Disney, Warner, Comcast, and Paramount are contemplating cuts, possible mergers.

  • ratman150@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Certain irony in these companies splitting their content and now considering merging it back.

    I’m glad I could contribute to their lack of profit by simply not paying any of them.

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      It seems pointless, but in practice what this is going to lead to is inovators getting absorbed by established media conglomerates.

    • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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      6 months ago

      Except the problem is that cable isn’t there to subsidize the content.

      The reason all the studios moved to streaming was because Netflix, Amazon, and Apple weren’t going to cover their total costs.

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          I’m not implying that at all.

          All I’m saying is that the industry made a certain amount of money per year based on cable and broadcast and it isn’t going to moving forward. Because of this, I see the so called golden age of television ending because there is no one to pay for the development of new shows and movies, even if those costs were inflated by studios.

          We can pirate what was already made, but I don’t see the new stuff getting made for anywhere near the budget current shows were being made at.

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            I don’t know how old you are but if you’re close to 40 or older, you may remember the '90s when music studios were in the same position and completely controlled production and distribution, forcing us to pay $20-$30 per CD (in 1990s dollars) for 13 tracks of mostly filler music. Once MP3s and broadband internet became common, the entire industry was decimated, yet there is more music produced now than ever before.

            You’re seeing the same thing happen with tv/movies today. I think it will once again be the studios that suffer not the content.

            • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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              More music gets made now, but the market is completely different.

              Bands have generally switched to individual artists with production more handled by others. A majority of a famous singer’s earnings now comes from ticket sales, causing a spike in ticket prices. There is also the chase for virality, seen a lot in both ring tone rap at the nadir of the industry and songs today based mainly on their TikTok hooks.

              TV shows and movies have already lost their “tour” with an overall decline in theatre and we are already seeing a lot of the middle ground of movies that were made 20+ years ago no longer get made.

              Content will still get made, and probably at a similar quantity. However, I expect the industry to continue its trend to either micro budget work or something gigantic with no middle ground, just like with music today.

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            See 10 years ago it was ALL in Netflix and everyone was happy. Studios got to get passive income and we only needed one service. Then the business bros got greedy and decided they needed more money and exclusivity while spending millions to stand up their own inferior services.

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              Netflix 10 years ago also got amazing deals because most studio executives didn’t understand streaming and just saw it as some additional money on top of broadcast, DVD, and syndication. Those revenue streams are mostly gone.

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                It’s so good when executives and investors don’t get new stuff, so they don’t come along to squeeze every single penny out of it and choke it to death.

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                  6 months ago

                  Maybe, but I still want good new stuff.

                  And it isn’t like executives and investors won’t still get rich on making new stuff, they will just cheaper and shittier new stuff.

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                That’s part of my point. They don’t have to lift a finger. Just let Netflix pay for the storage, the data centers, the bandwidth. Studios will get something out of it for doing literally nothing. But they got greedy and broke the model.

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                  Yup. Netflix was icing on the cake that was cable. Now streaming is becoming the cake. The cost or revenue of the cake needs to be the same for the biz to run.

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                  For their old stuff, sure.

                  But I’m thinking of new movies and TV shows. What kinds of movies can be made a decade from now?

  • Nommer@sh.itjust.works
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    Lol. They’re not dealing with boomers who don’t know how to pirate anymore. We grew up learning how to pirate as kids who won’t deal with that bullshit.

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        This is very true, and I’m betting a big part of why streaming services are doing this is they know they can get away with it more than they could have with earlier generations who just pirate everything when the services aren’t worth what they cost.

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        They still know how web browsers work.

        All it takes is a trip over to fmovies and you have more content than any paid streaming service.

        No account required. No CC info required. It’s a testament to how stupid people who pay for shit are.

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    lol I was just yesterday saying that I fully expect these to fold and all the content to go back to Netflix where the studios can earn passive income with no more expense than paying their lawyers to write contracts.

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    6 months ago

    Why aren’t people using our service? Should we lower prices? Provide better shows and services? No no, we’re business people not people making a product. Cut and merge!

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    6 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The world’s largest traditional entertainment companies face a reckoning in 2024 after losing more than $5 billion in the past year from the streaming services they built to compete with Netflix.

    Disney, Warner Bros Discovery, Comcast and Paramount—US entertainment conglomerates that have been growing ever larger for decades—are facing pressure to shrink or sell legacy businesses, scale back production and slash costs following billions in losses from their digital platforms.

    Beyond their streaming losses, the traditional media groups are facing a weak advertising market, declining television revenues and higher production costs following the Hollywood strikes.

    But as the traditional media owners struggle, Netflix, the tech group that pioneered the streaming model over a decade ago, has emerged as the winner of the battle to reshape video distribution.

    “For much of the past four years, the entertainment industry spent money like drunken sailors to fight the first salvos of the streaming wars,” analyst Michael Nathanson wrote in November.

    Earnings for its most recent quarter soared past Wall Street’s expectations as it added 9 million new subscribers—the strongest rise since early 2020, when Covid-19 lockdowns led to a jump.


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    6 months ago

    Quick, corps, double down on enshittification so we never are enticed to give you corporate clusterfucks another chance to deceive us.

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      Honestly though, the fact that enshitfication was ALWAYS the plan for these businesses is why we shouldn’t of let them get as much market share in the first place