• oce 🐆@jlai.lu
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      9 months ago

      There seems to be an over representation of visible trans women among independent open source programers.

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        9 months ago

        I have not seen a single piece of reliable evidence to show that this is true. There may be a louder minority in that specific area, but so far nothing indicates it is an actual overrepresentation.

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            9 months ago

            Yes, multiple. I’m also in multiple FOSS user and developer groups.

            But there is no need to believe me. You can ask Github. https://opensourcesurvey.org/2017/

            Along other dimensions, representation is stronger: 1% of respondents identify as transgender (including 9% of women in open source), and 7% identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, asexual, or another minority sexual orientation.

            The proportion of the general population is 0.5 to 0.7%. So yes, it is very slightly higher, but not in the way that all the memes have been trying to portray it lately.

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          I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but the main dev of Elementary OS is trans. And I think one of the devs behind Asahi Linux.

          There is a slight association. Not a bad thing, there are probably more examples too. But those are the ones that immediately came to mind.

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            I am aware. But that makes 2 out of how many?

            Look, i’m not trying to attack a group here. I’m just having the habit of calling out bullshit when i see it. That there is a larger proportion of trans people in FOSS is a myth. It’s based on memes that have gotten out of control.

            In FOSS specifically, the opposite has been true for a long time and there has been a severe lack of diversity. That has thankfully improved a lot and the environment has now become much more colorful and has adapted to the reality of the general population. But that’s all there is to it. There is no significant overrepresentation, at least I haven’t found anything that would prove that.

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          Minority, yes, but not louder if you want to see loud trans women they’re there on Instagram with the rest of all the oversensitive-vulnerable narcissist personality types (subclinical but quite annoying indeed).

          As I see it trans folks gravitate towards general nerddom precisely because it doesn’t have to do anything with sex or gender, is a refuge for people who don’t really feel like they fit in with the majority. Not to dismiss the existence of sexist etc. asshats calling themselves nerds, by and large noone bats an eye if you’r AMAB but play a flirty female elf rogue in AD&D. And as far as contributing to an open source project is concerned you could be a literal cat and people would barely notice.

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            Yea, n I unintentionally fked it up here too for one such person. So I was discussing solutions for a problem that I had encountered with my project on Matrix. I didn’t know it then, but I was talking to a trans woman then. Now, I had a habit of “yessirrr”-ing when I was excited. So I found the solution, and in my excited state, I said “yessirrr” somewhere. She immediately corrected me by saying that it was “yes ma’am”. I apologized and explained the situation. I then looked at her bio, and it had the flag and all that. She unfortunately ghosted me after that incident :(.

            So yeah… I’ve tried to have inclusive language n whatnot after that. Cuz uk… U never realise how heteronormative our language is and how not inclusive it is for many many people.