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    9 months ago

    If you’re going to write a power fantasy for the internet at least make it cool. Add some lasers or epic street fights. Add in some part where you outsmart the librul professor who hates god. “I found a job in a shitty industry and only prostitutes will fuck me” is not the flex you think it is.

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      9 months ago

      I am reading your post and thinking about my job at a major US defense contractor where I write software for laser weapon systems…

      It’s not because I was bullied though.

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      9 months ago

      I used to use high-powered (4KW) lasers at work every day. Now I make 3D models and sit at a desk.

      Guess which job I like more.

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        Outspoken libertarians aren’t going to be bullied in college - outspoken anything in college generally leads to people ignoring you. College students that think they’re being bullied most likely attribute normal behavior to bullying - just like incels treat normal human interactions as impediments to getting laid.

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          Your first sentence is somewhat correct, I’d argue that dealing with any kind of absolute like you have done is incredibly dumb though. Of course being outspoken can get you bullied. It may be less likely in a university/college setting, but it’s definitely gonna happen. And your second second sentence is so wrong it’s almost comical. Bullying at a tertiary education level is so common that I guarantee there’s a bunch of studies done on it and probably a wiki page for it too.

          Edit: lol, yep, shit loads of studies (and there’s plenty more to be found than just these few), and the wiki exists.

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          Every time I look at the comments for one of these posts, that’s what’s going on at the top. I can usually see where people are coming from even if it sounds insane but I don’t know what this community’s problem is. Maybe a coping strategy from being bullied themselves? It could make them feel like they were in control of it. I’ve seen that from victims of trauma before.vThat’s all I’ve got for theories.

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      Genuine answer: annoying people who inject themselves into social circles in which they’re unwelcome. And, no, I’m not defending bullying. I’m just explaining how it happens.

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        Yeah… This maybe isn’t the nicest way to phrase it, but I’ve seen similar situations. Usually people are just kind of talking behind people’s backs, but sometimes it gets nasty :(. Frankly people kind of get bullied all the time everywhere. It’s maybe not as violent as playground bullying but people will be shitty to people at work, school, whatever. Do your best not to be a part of it, try to be self aware if you might hurt somebody else’s feelings, and try to stand up for people.

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        9 months ago

        Also the idiot with samurai swords on the wall and a lack of good hygiene skills.

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            Humorously enough, it wasn’t comp-sci for me. They were generally the cool tech bros, with some nerdy exceptions. The true neck-beards were a certain subset of physics students. They literally left keyboards greasy when they used the community computers. A friend who was in the higher classes told me classes usually had a couple feet section left blank around them because of the smell.

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            9 months ago

            Maybe you swapped the cause and effect. Instead of “How do poor people smoke” you could ask “Why are smokers poor”.

            And then you’ve already answered your question

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            9 months ago

            They take on more crushing debt, steal, beg, lie.

            Look at the stats on smoking and income in Canadian provinces. The two are like inverse of each other.

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      Genuine question: What do you think I, as a member of the LGBT+ community, did wrong that resulted in being bullied while in college?

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      Eventually you have to step back and wonder, “Am I just a piece of shit?”. Ask yourself this question, then look at your screen. Are you on 4chan? Do you have Pepe images on your post? If you answered yes to these questions, there’s a high probability that you’re just a piece of shit.

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        Reducing 4chan to its mediatic extremes is like reducing Reddit to the_donald or Lemmy to Hexbear.

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          This ignores that 4chan is widely known as the cesspool of the internet and attracts those types. It’s like going on Hexbear and being surprised at the communists. People gather where their banners are. Shit attracts shit. This reduction is apt.

          Sure it kind of does some good ish things sometimes, but more often than not, it’s just an internet mob internet mobbing. That’s essentially all it is: chaos waves constantly crashing back in on itself. Any good that comes from it is incidental at best.

          Also, defending 4chan on the wider Internet is a little odd, 4chan itself revels in its shit reputation…

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            Sure it kind of does some good ish things sometimes

            I’m actually not saying it brings more good or whatever. I’m saying it’s mostly an anonymous forum with people just discussing like many other places on the internet.

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              I can’t help but project an old version of myself on you. I can’t imagine defending 4chan unless I was actively using it a lot… It did used to be basically my only internet community, so I understand being particularly fond of the cesspool.

              However, I don’t actually understand your reactions here. Why are you defending it when it seems like 4chan itself wouldn’t even go this far except maaaybe as a limp wristed attempt at an excuse when something truly horrific happens because of them? I genuinely don’t think I understand

              Like, to currently vilify it is easy, just take a screenshot of pol. I remember looking pre2016 and seeing HYPERPARTISANSHIP all caps everywhere. It’s an anonymous forum with people discussing plans to make life shittier for various groups, essentially at all times… And before pol it was b (my era was back when pol was a boring place, I don’t know the current state of any board, but I know some of the history and what motivates some normies of my niche who fuck with it)

              I just don’t understand the downplaying of it, normal people participate in shit ways on 4chan specifically because of the anonymity. The anonymity is why it’s such a cesspool in the first place. It’s toxic keyboard warrior syndrome to the extreme.

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                I’m not using it a lot just checking by curiosity sometimes because I like internet culture. And you probably do too, otherwise you wouldn’t be in this community.

                What I particularly dislike is tribally colported stereotypical opinions. For exemple Reddit considering Musk as a genius a few years ago and a complete idiots nowadays. I find similarly stupid to reduce 4chan to its racist/sexist users, there’s also a lot of good quality social satire as we can find in this c, and overall a lot of uninstering normal internet discussion between nerds of different specialities. You focus on pol and b, like people could focus on Hexbear and lemmygrad to judge Lemmy, I think Lemmy cannot be reduced to those.

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    9 months ago

    For anyone who believes any part of this, I have a fantastic bridge-based real estate opportunity for you.