I never consent to give my data away or being tracked, but how do you deal with so called legitimate interest? I tried several times to untick them but it is a long list (in fact at the bottom there is a “vendors” link with even longer, much longer list. It took me 10 minutes to get to the bottom of it once).
My questions:
-how can we trust these so called legitimate interests when they are self defined by companies whose business model relies on your data?
-how can we find out what these legitimate interests are and what data it collects?
-are such companies controlled in any way?
-is this kind of consent form compliant with EU gdpr? (normally opt out is to be as easy as opt in, and there is no “refuse all” for these so called legitimate interests).
-what are your strategies against such sites tracking you? Or am I just being paranoid?
The sheer amount vendors is daunting, the Internet really turned into crap
Edit: when clicking Preferences at the bottom the content of the legitimate interested is spelled out for each vendor, so this replies one of my questions.
I use temporary container tabs in Firefox. (Desktop, dunno if that works on mobile)
Every new tab I open opens in its own temporary container unless I’ve chosen otherwise (like for sites I want to remember logins )
So, even if I accept all the cookies, they all disappear with the temporary container after browsing, and don’t connect to any other container - only tabs started (e.g. by clicking links) in the same container.
When the government takes your data they will call it legitimate
They will call it legal and we will like it.
Use a script obfuscator. I’ve been using one for about a decade now and it’s extremely easy to tell when companies are doing illegal spying. Looking at YOU ebay. My full name is not GKDSLGFJDS ZKGWKDSF, you fucking assholes. Enjoy the cement shoes when the advertisers you sold “my information” to find out that it’s nothing but strings of randomly long random characters, kinda like what happened to twitter when they started lying and saying everyone who used their platform was SUPER into crypto (Yes, this was pre-Elon. All Musk did was bring the nazism of the platform to the surface. For an example of what twitter was really like you need look no further than BlueSky where you need to go out of your want to “disable nazis” because the CEO is convinced the average person wants to see hitler apologia)
Do not question, just obey.
fair enough, i have a legitimate interest in always blocking trackers and advertisements in every device i own too
Your browser can block cookies.
Your browser cannot block server-side abuse of your personal data. These consent forms are not about cookies; they’re about fooling users into consenting to abuse of their personal data. Cookies are just one of many many technological measures required to carry out said human rights abuse.
I thought legitimate interest meant you were legitimately interested in giving up your data to those vendors???
Nope.
And now hand me over your wallet. You can’t deny it, I have legitimate interest.
Just autowipe cookies on pageloads. Use fast rotating vpn, tunnel through tor twice, run computer in ram only, remove all storage devices.
Amateur advice. Don’t own your own device. ask your friends to look up things for you on their devices, then print them out and mail them to your PO Box. Untraceable.
But how did you pay for the PO box? Using cash, think of the fingerprints. And don’t forget about the post office spies
Solution, don’t have an address or talk to anyone ever, scavenge your own food.
Untraceable
What about the cats?
The musical or the movie?
Honestly? I wouldn’t trust either.
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There’s no such thing as legitimate interest. Reject what you can, block everything else with adblockers.
what are your strategies against such sites tracking you?
Close and never go there again. If I’m bit enough times, it goes in the hosts file for blocking. If I really need the stuff on there, I try archived versions on web.archive.org or archive.today
Your honor, it was not a rape, it was my legitimate interest in sex.
“If it’s a legitimate interest, the browser has ways to try to shut that whole thing down”
How was the browser dressed?
I mean depending on the context it might be a decent defense
Your choice of words was absolutely terrible. There is no such thing as a decent defense of rape. Now, an effective defense in our busted legal system? That’s a whole different story. But “decent” does not apply in cases of sexual assault and violence. Ever.
If the person is innocent until they are proven guilty. Also it is entirely possible they were innocent
Your reply is completely unrelated to what I said. There is no such thing as a decent defense for raping someone. If they didn’t rape anyone, good! If they did, that is an indefensible act by its very nature.
I made no comment at all on whether or not any specific individual is guilty or not. So I’m really confused what your point is here…?
You are saying that they don’t set a defense. No matter the crime, you deserve defense. No one, not even sexual predictors, deserve to be stripped of constitutional rights. Such things also are related to prejudice.
No. Read it again. I never said allegation. I never referenced court proceedings. I said the act of rape is indefensible.
If you commit rape, there is no “decent” defense. If you didn’t, then my comment doesn’t apply. Simple as that.
There is no excuse for sexual violence, and there never will be.
I’ve seen judges let offenders off light on worse arguments. Unfortunately.
I’ve scene abusive and insane spouses that accuse there husband of abuse and even rape
No u haven’t 🤥
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Depends on the threat model but usually you don’t trust them. It’s as simple as that
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I think the legitimate interest has something to do with giving the data to the government when legally required but it can have other meanings too. Good luck with finding out. Some of them won’t tell the truth even if officially asked (unless you work for the government)
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Everything is somewhat controlled but in terms of data collection and sharing it is absolutely not (e. g. the users’ HIV status data on Tumblr or whatever the thing is called)
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Idk about that
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Regular protection like Tor, VPN, anti-fingerprinting etc
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I wouldn’t say you are being too paranoid
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Yes the internet has turned into a horrible place
- It’s not gdpr compliant in the way shown here or IAB TCF uses it.
Legitimate interest is a sort failsafe which can be used to cover certain exceptions.
- the datacontrollor must have an exceptional situation, so not on a regular basis.
- the balance between personal and business interest must be considered carefully under case by case basis.
- the dataprocessor isn’t the one doing the consideration
Automating all this is kind off against all the above.
Legitimate interest is just an out to get around tracking users.
I wouldn’t be surprised is many data trackers don’t pay attention to any of the permissions and agreements. It’s hard to validate they aren’t in compliance and it’s hard for most people to even challenge these businesses.
Even if these businesses where legally challenged they can just close the business. Then take the same software and start a new business doing the same thing. If you look at the amount of companies you information is shared with under legitimate interests it can be in the order of hundreds.
I wouldn’t be surprised is many data trackers don’t pay attention to any of the permissions and agreements. It’s hard to validate they aren’t in compliance and it’s hard for most people to even challenge these businesses.
organizations like la quadrature validate and challenge those businesses. Europe is relatively strict on this subject.
Not hundreds but thousands. I saw one app that claimed to share the data with like 815 partners
This is the worst one I’ve been subjected to so far. Was on some gaming-related site, don’t remember which one
New high score. Nice
What?
So the gaming site/high score connection wasn’t intended? Oh well 🤷
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It’s their interest, not yours.
Legitimate Interest is an attempt at working around the GDPR using a loophole in the ruling meant to permit processing of data in situations such as when a business has a trading relationship with a client.
However the legal clarification from the EU Commission says: “Your company/organisation must also check that by pursuing its legitimate interests the rights and freedoms of those individuals are not seriously impacted, otherwise your company/organisation cannot rely on grounds of legitimate interest as a justification for processing the data and another legal ground must be found.” (see here) and there is a “right to privacy” in EU law.
So supposedly that nearly endless list of “partners” (read: advert providers, trackers and other assorted businesses who make money from breaking people’s privacy) cannot use legitimate interest to track you as that would break your right to privacy.
That said, in practice they probably do, and until they get fined hard they’ll keep on doing it, so as others said, don’t used a Chrome-based browser and use a good Ad Blocker add-on.
This is the exception to prove the rule that the other interests are definitely illegitimate. This is the website telling you that they give away your data for illegitimate purposes.
It’s not a surprise. We knew this was true. But seeing it’s spelled out like this is a little galling.
Illegitimate: not authorized by the law; not in accordance with accepted standards or rules
The website is basically admitting that they’re using your data maliciously, intentionally, by having this distinction.
While you’re right conceptually, this isn’t what the wording means in terms of consent dialogs. Legitimate interest means they can assume, legitimately, that you have an interest in aspects of the site (by you being there) that require X cookies, basically. Ie their product is providing functionality they can assume you’re interested in just by being there, and they’re “pre approving” the tracking/storage for that functionality.
I concur that it’s rubbish and used almost always in a manner that reeks of illegitimacy.
