I’m pulling for Monday. Friday’s already mostly a write-off.
Super optimistic title there lol
I’m with Cowbee. I don’t see this happening outside of a few mom and pop places that decide to do it on their own until “government” forces the change. Just look at the 3 letter jackasses freaking out about WFH.
I was looking for fully remote jobs recently. All the local jobs are back to 3 days in office. One of the recruiters said something like “our employees are happy to go into the office three days a week” and my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.
“Happy”
It felt more like a threat. Like “if you’re not the type of person to enjoy that then look somewhere else”
Proper read…
People who think this is happening haven’t learned who owns them. A lot of learning to do.
Id rather kill Wednesday.
I’d be so disappointed by this.
Every time I take a day off midweek, it feels like doubling the number of weeks in the week, rather than reducing the number of days.
I’ve found it precisely the opposite: Monday is like a Thursday (so experientially two Thursdays and two Fridays) with a free day to schedule doctor’s appointments, car fixes, and all the other little things you’d normally have to take PTO for but now do not
Wait, so you get a 4 day week but everyone else has to do 5 days so you can go to your appointments?
When I worked 32 hours at my first job I took out the Wednesday. It’s a great rhythm to get into, two days of work and a day or two in between.
That’s effectively what I had as an undergrad and it was lovely. Wednesdays were (mostly) reserved for labs, so if you weren’t taking chemistry or another class with a lab, you had Wednesdays to sleep in. I rather miss that.
I am self employed and actually do that whenever possible (which is a rare occurrence these days,but I managed to do it for six month once). It sounds counterintuitive to do so, but it’s actually a fairly nice concept. You work for two days, which is not that long and offers you enough chance to really work “all in”. Then you sleep in in Wednesday and do most of the weekly chores - all that shit you would normally do half of your Saturday. And then you do another two days, already approaching a full weekend - which is far less likely to be interrupted by these lousy chores you normally need to do. And if some things remain,you are not having four but two work days in your bones - which makes them easier and usually faster to put behind you.
Can I ask what you do? I need to get a job and I’m dreading it after being out of the work force for a bit. Id much rather be my own boss.
I am a CEO/founder of a small healthcare consulting company.
The 4 day work week likely won’t be established as the standard until Socialism is achieved and the bourgeoisie overthrown, but when that happens it will depend on the job and sector, likely working with different shifts to maintain 24/7 production but with lower workload. Probably a move to a 30 hour work-week, like what PSL suggests.
Don’t be so cynical!
The 4 day work week could be established under capitalism so it’s easier to have two fulltime jobs. 💀
I hate that you’re right…
Nah we’ll move to a three day work week but America will require you to work a minimum of 48 hours to qualify as full time.
But working multiple jobs is cheating on your employer
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Alternating Mondays and Fridays. This gets you alternating two day weekends and 4 day weekends
This is a cool idea that I didn’t consider.
It’s the smartest option.
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I used to work a compressed week and started taking Monday but eventually it moved to Friday. When I took Monday off I felt like I had to pay for it with the next four days, when I took Friday it was like I was being rewarded with an early weekend.
I love using Wednesdays to clear leave (I know, not the best day in terms of utility for holidays and stuff) as you essentially create a new Friday. Work is so much more bearable.
What’s clearing leave? Is that an American concept?
Sounds like a military thing? Not a normal US civilian worker phrase.
Yes, paid time off requests or advanced request to use leave (doctor appointment, or other) is typical for any planned absenced in the US.
holy shit you barbarians.
I also vote Monday. Seems to be easier to get back to work after a Monday holiday vs a Friday holiday.
Neither. I’d remove Wednesdays.
Middle of the week off day lets you get all your errands done with little annoyance from or waiting behind the public, so you get everything knocked out and have your weekends 100% for you.
More importantly, on a 4 day workweek with Wed/Weekend off, you NEVER work more than two consecutive days. Ever. It’s fantastic.
If everyone had Wednesday off you would need to contend with the public though.
Fuck that. Yeah it means you can stay out later Tuesday, but you can’t do jack shit Wednesday knowing that Thursday is coming up. I’d rather have another Saturday than another Sunday if that makes sense.
Fuck that I’ve done schedules like that before . . I’d much rather just take 3 days in a row. Able to rest so much more. Obviously personal preference though!
Judging from the other comments it’s not for everyone, but personally I love my Wednesdays off. For me it’s mostly about dealing with accumulated fatigue due to a health condition though, and I definitely agree about the errands. When I have lots of medical appointments they’re so easy to schedule lol
UK majority of the bank holidays are on a Monday, so Fridays would be nice as otherwise you’d lose them and what would become long weekends now.
UK we are seeing a very slow shift to 4 day weeks for more privileged jobs, I work with two people who both have Fridays off as it’s an actual thing you can apply for at my employer.
While the Tories stopped councils from offering 4 day weeks to employees, it’s got to be coming back, further spreading its availability.
Hope this is around when I get a job
realistically, if we move to a four-day world week it won’t be the same four days for everyone
this, I rather it not be the same 4 days for everyone so people actually can get things done instead of half the services close the same time you leave work
Someone’s got a bad case of the Tuesdays.
You get your ass kicked for saying something like that.
Wednesday
Those are the only two days you could have picked where it wouldn’t make a difference. Either way you have 4 consecutive days of work followed by 3 free days.
Tuesday would immediately become the new Monday and everyone would get the Monday scaries. The start of a series of work days will always be a bummer, no matter what you call it.
We did four 10s at my last job, rotating every quarter whether you had off Monday or Friday. Personally I much preferred working the quieter Monday to the boring Friday. Tuesday became the new Monday as that’s when everyone was back in office. I didn’t feel the quiet Monday when you had half-ish the staff working was too bad, but the quiet Fridays really dragged. Quiet Monday was a nice ramp up to Tuesday, I got a lot of shit done on those Mondays.
I’d say there is a difference to which day you choose off. It doesn’t seem like there would be a difference but I definitely felt it.
Ok, I wasn’t considering a rotation where the workplace would be partially staffed Mondays and Fridays. That makes a lot of sense. I was imagining everyone having off Saturday-Mondthatn a more universal weekend, which I think would not be practical for getting things accomplished. In that case I see what you mean about Mondays.
It was a hospital IT job so we couldn’t do everyone on the same schedule. My estimate would be 40% stayed on traditional M-F 8s, 30% on M-Th 10s, and 30% on Tu-F 10s. Quiet Monday was nice, quiet Friday really dragged, especially after lunch. I was way more productive working on Monday vs Friday.
The hybrid schedule worked pretty good for coverage, we also had staggered start times so there was always someone around M-F 6a-6p. Tuesday through Thursday was packed with meetings as that’s when you really had 100% of everyone working.
Why in the world would you pick any other day?
I wouldn’t be opposed to the idea of having wednesday intermission instead of a 3 day weekend.
But the proper thing to do would calculate which weekedays have the least amount of fixed holidays and then pick one of those.
My bet is, it’ll be Saturday that goes, finally achieving a 6-day work week.
SILENCE, PEASANT!
You will now work Saturday as well!
I used to like to work Saturday at my old job. It was overtime pay. Then my provincial government helped corporations and made it so that overtime didn’t start until 48 hours a week, killing the incentive to work Saturdays.
