Ok, I am not supporting bestiality here. But, I just came to know about a Dogxim, a dog fox hybrid and I had known for a long time that horses and donkeys can breed (to produce a mule). So, I was just curious, can humans breed with any other animals closely related to us?

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    Homo sapiens are the last remaining species of hominina. Our closest remaining relatives, the Pan (chimpanzees and bonobos) diverged at least 6.5 million years ago. Though there is some evidence early hominina may have interbred with pan after the divergence as recently as 4 mya.

    This is more recent than dogs and foxes by a long way, and about the same as donkeys and horses. That, plus chromosomal analysis and some other research suggests it could be possible for a human and chimp or bonobo to interbreed, though likely not create fertile offspring. However, there has never been a confirmed case of this occurring, despite multiple claims.

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        We’re talking way earlier than cavemen. The last interbreeding between our ancestors and chimps’ ancestors happened (using the most recent estimate I could find) a million years before the least recent evidence of the use of any stone tools. This is not a human that would be recognisable at all as a human.

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      Pretty sure that we can’t breed with chimps and generate a fertile offspring due the mismatch on the number of chromosomes.

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      So after reading the wiki, I believe the most likely successful attempt will be to mate a human with downe syndrome, with a chimpanzee. Let’s get on this. I wanna see some atrocities of nature.

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          The wiki says it’s hard with chimps because we have one less chromosome than chimps. Down syndrome: “all my homes got extra chromies”. They have an extra chromosome. Ergo: down syndrome + chimp = hybrid chimpmanzee.

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              Thats how down syndrome works. Look it up yourself, smart guy. People with down syndrome have 47 chromosomes instead of 46. Chimps have 48, so down syndrome people are one closer, by mutation. That means just one more mutation and we’re all set.

              Now start work on making a monkeyboy.

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                Are you really this fucking thick? There’s more to genetic compatibility than chromosome count. Otherwise we’d be seeing human–Reeves’s muntjac hybrids. Or chimp-gorilla.

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                An odd pair of chromosomes makes it harder than being off by a pair. Mules are unbreedable due to their odd number of chromosomes.

                We have successfully bred with species further apart, including an alpaca and a llama.

                So yes all the science points to it being possible with humans, but ethically we can’t possibly do that.

                And it is not one more mutation to add an extra chromosome. It’s a loooot more.

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    No, not since Neanderthals, Denisovians and friends went extinct.

    Even Neanderthals are a bit of a partial case, since the hybrid males were mostly sterile. We know this from the pattern that Neanderthal genes appear in modern DNA.

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        Uhh, I think there was a Nature article about it. Per the Wikipedia, basically there’s just stretches of the X chromosome that are deserts of Neanderthal DNA, because when a Neanderthal allele is present and there isn’t a second copy, it’s a reproductive dead end and selected out.

        Oh, here.

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          Most people of non-African origin (a fact that helped pinpoint where the mixing happened and when) have 1-3% or so, the amount varying by person and region.

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    I just found this, so you’ll have to read it too: https://www.the-sun.com/news/3657105/prostitute-orangutan-pony-tragic-story/

    Summary:

    TW: sexual animal abuse

    Female orangutan named Pony was used as a prostitute for years. She was chained to a bed, shaved every other day leaving her with irritated, itchy, sore-covered skin. They also put make-up, perfume and jewellery on her, and taught her to perform sex acts. The local community didn’t want to let her go because she was generating great revenue. In the end it took 35 armed police officers to rescue her.

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    There used to be Neanderthals (homo sapiens neanderthalensis) and a few others, we basically interbred them out of existence.

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      “Interbred them out of existence” is sort of a bleak way of looking at it. For a lot of people, they’re our ancestors. They’re a part of human history and heritage.

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        Not so sure, except for a last few holdouts in Spain about 40k years ago, who were probably whipped out by natural catastrophe along with regular humans in that area.

        I think we kept diluting their gene pool by having sex with them and out breeding them.

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          With everything you know about humans and our history of causing mass extinction everywhere we settle, of racial violence and irrational fear of anything that is a little bit different, you really don’t think there were any other contributing causes to the mysterious extinction of EVERY SINGLE NON-HUMAN HOMINID ON THE PLANET?

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            For most people, except sub Saharan Africans, we are also talking about our ancestors when talking about neanderthals. Most of those bones we see on museums are probably the great x grandfathers of many people walking past.

            Obviously we have no idea what happened over huge parts of deep human pasts, Neanderthals were a sparse population to begin with, and absorbing their people into the rest of humanity just by fucking is certainly a solution

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        It’s not really called “extinction” from more modern understanding I guess, more like assimilated over a long period of time and from species contact and living with each other.

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      Now that I’m middle aged… How old is Steve Jaleel in this clip? I’ve seen so much of his face that I can’t tell if he’s 15 or 25.

      Note: how have I never known his name is Jaleel White?

      Note 2: Family Matters aired from when he was 13 to 22 years old. So… That’s my answer.

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      Is 8chan still a thing? Honestly I like the concept of image boards and thought it was cool of 8chan to allow you to make your own boards. But of course image boards attract the worst

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    As other commenters point out, not since the extinctionof Neanderthals, Denisovans, etc. But even if it were possible, the hybrid would not be fertile: our chromosome 2 is a fusion of two chromosomes that are separate in other related species, so there’s no way meiotic crossover recombination could possibly work.

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      Why else would I ask that question? Completely unrelated but you won’t happen to have any goats nearby, would you?

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    Not anymore. We assimilated the neanderthals a long time ago.

    Other close relative species don’t exist anymore.

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    Breed with? No, not since we out-bred and out-competed Neandertals. And Denisovans. And at least one other ancestral human subspecies in sub-Saharan Africa. So at least 3 ancient homo sapiens subspecies that we used to interbreed with, but none left now.