Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.
The resolution is introducing “official_name” tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11
So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.
Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80
So maybe that could be a reason for everyone around the world to stop using en_US locale settings. XD
I’m in Canada, and Google maps shows me the same as what you are seeing.
Had to check.
Slowly working towards a viable OpenStreetMap in my area. If you want to help, you can make a free account and begin editing: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new
You can also contribute on mobile by using Street Complete or any number of great mobile apps that allow limited editing and full map features like Organic Maps
Edit: I didn’t know about Vespucci, which is a full-featured OSM editor for Android. Thanks, @onyxjet@lemmy.world
Also be sure to check out !open_street_maps@lemmy.world
Vespucci is also full editor for android.
There is also Go Map! A primary editor for IOS.
Every door is a mobile editor that allows you to add new things and edit existing ones.
ID is the main OpenStreetMap website editor.
Rapid, essentially just ID but with a special edition of automatic building suggestions and such or what they call mapwithai.
JOSM a full on editor for desktop, does everything ID or Rapid can do and a whole lot more. Its more of an advanced editor.
Did the same in my area. The roads are good, but the businesses are either missing or outdated. I probably added 100 over the last few months.
It’s kinds fun! When I go out, I check OM and see what’s missing, take some pictures, and then go edit a bunch of stuff that night. It doesn’t take long, and I feel like it’s worth my time.
Gulf of Cuba
:)
Cuba
United States
Mexico
Gulf of C.U.M.
you mean of course, to put the US on top, right. #USANumber1
/s of course, if it wasn’t obvious
Did not know about Street Complete. Thanks for the recommendation!
Street Complete is amazing! Perfect for people who find going on a walk too boring, like me
Recently began contributing to OpenStreetMap. Information on my place is quite outdated, lots of work to do!
Thanks for providing that link. I knew about OSM, but didn’t fully grasp that (duh) it’s open which means I can help with the data. Time to get busy! :)
What a great time to download Organic maps
It’s a massive upgrade in terms of aesthetics and privacy!
How does it compare to OsmAnd?
Organic Maps has fewer features and settings, a more stripped-down user interface, and concentrates on what most people use the most (find an address, navigate to it).
It is also much, much faster than OsmAnd.
Personally, I find OsmAnd too slow and clunky, and Organic Maps a bit too basic.
But I prefer Organic Maps 95% of the time.Also a great choice. I prefer organic maps for a variety of reasons (like ability to contribute to the maps), but a lot of people prefer OsmAnd. They are both very good.
I love that it’s not google, and the UI is nice, but the lack of realtime traffic info is a real blocker for me
You might be interested in Magic Earth it is also built on OpenStreetMap but includes crowdsourced traffic data. If you are in a big city then it’s likely they have good data for your area.
is there a web version?
What a bunch of cucks! The billionaires have fully taken over!
They took it over from the millionaires!
and the trillionaires will soon take over!
For them to not exist and to stop it they need to be cleaned over regularly. Some countries had that figured out.
That’s a weird flex by South Canada.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
This is the way.
Bingo.
Imagine getting every “alpha male” 2A nutjob violent conservative to realize who their actual enemy is.
We’d get some actual positive change in an extremely short period of time.
(viewed from Canada)
Same in Europe
Same in a little bit to your west Europe.
Same, but in Japan.
If you zoom in does it change? Mine does. I’m in the us
No
What’s that sucking sound?
Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.
I’m all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn’t even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.
Add it to OSM?
That solves the problem this time, but it doesn’t help if I’m trying to navigate somewhere new.
If it doesn’t have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don’t think it’s a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.
Every time I try to navigate to an address that’s missing in OSM, I just navigate to the nearest one instead. It’s not a big deal.
And when I have 5 minutes of free time, I add the address.That’s how OSM works. There isn’t a dev or company to blame, you can literally fix the missing data yourself. And that’s the only way it works.
I wish OSM had the resources to make something akin to Pokemon Go but instead of capturing something, it adds it to the database.
You are in luck my friend: https://streetcomplete.app/
They have made it super easy and fun. I have been playing it for nearly a year and have made a pretty big dent in my local dense metro area.
oh yay!!
My test search for the UPS store up the street sent me 4km away. So…not great.
Just swapped apps. Thanks for the suggestion!
I use Google maps mostly to find out where things are, and unfortunately OSM does not have as many places as Google Maps. I can add one or two places I notice are missing (even though the phone interface isn’t that easy) but Google Maps consistently has better information, so I mostly use organic maps for when I already know the address or already know the location is in its database.
The traffic conditions is huge tho
Just last week, that philly plane crash, I saw exactly where the roads are closed and which roads are congested.
The change reflects Google’s policy of adhering to official government names for geographical locations.
OK, so why am I seeing Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) from Canada?
Same here in Europe.
This is highly irregular for several reasons:
Google adheres to official government positions, yes, but as far as I’m aware the American government hasn’t made the name change official yet. Members of the government have said that they’d do this, but I don’t think this idea has passed any process yet. So then why is Google “updated” their maps?
When Google adheres to official government positions, they are local. In example, when you’re in China and look up Taiwan, it’ll appear as part of China. In other countries it’ll appear as either an independent country or a disputed territory, depending on that government’s official position on the matter. What we DON’T see is something like “Taiwan (China)”, as Google supposedly has no intention on forcing the policies of one government upon another government, and as far as I’m aware the rest of the world hasn’t agreed to changing The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America.
If anyone’s interested, here’s what it looks like in Europe. The good news: this is the first time I’ve had to use Google Maps in a loooong time (ignoring embedded maps in other sites). OpenStreetMap is wonderful and there are some superb apps powered by it, including the ever-excellent Organic Maps.
If Justin Trudeau gets active on this, you can probably get it to Gulf of Canada (Gulf of Mexico) (Gulf of America).
From the Wikipedia for Gulf of Mexico:
While the Interior Department confirmed that the Gulf of America name was effective for U.S. federal agencies, on January 24, the change does not apply in an international context.
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This whole thing is extremely cringe. There isn’t any other way to put it. Trump. His executive order. The compliance. It’s all cringe.
Apple Maps currently shows it as Gulf of Mexico, fwiw.
Huh, do they really change names of international things when only one party says so?
Denali/McKinely is one thing, it’s part of the US. But the Gulf of Mexico is a mix of US, Mexico, Cuba, and international waters. I wonder what they show Google Maps users who are in Mexico.
They have clear rules for contested areas… that they follow in an as clear way as their user support rules.
That’s reassuring. We all know that google is the best at user support.
I found this paragraph…
Can Trump change the name of the Gulf of Mexico? Maybe, but it’s not a unilateral decision, and other countries don’t have to go along. The International Hydrographic Organization — of which both the US and Mexico are members — works to ensure all the world’s seas, oceans and navigable waters are surveyed and charted uniformly, and also names some of them. There are instances where countries refer to the same body of water or landmark by different names in their own documentation.
From this webpage… https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/can-trump-change-the-name-of-the-gulf-of-mexico-to-gulf-of-america
Naming things is complicated.
It’s not really a case where some organisation has the authority to name something. Rather people just call something a name, and organisations adopt that name.
What the fuck is this shit?
Expect in the near future:
Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) (Gulf of CUM)
Greenland (New Alaska) (New Siberia)
Gaza Strip (New Houston)
Falkland Islands (Las Islas Españolas) (Les Îles Napoléon)
Antarctica (American Liberty Glacier)
A born rich low IQ loser jerking himself off while we’re all forced to watch, courtesy of the average low IQ American voter.
