• Maiq@lemy.lol
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    OsmAnd still holding out! I will never not call it the Gulf of Mexico.

    OsmAnd

    I think the world should stop calling USians americans. America is a huge place spanning 2 continents encompassing so many different cultures uniquely American. I always thought it was weird calling Mexicans in the US, Mexican American. It’s like saying American American. Wouldn’t Mexicans in Mexico also be Mexican Americans? Just never felt right to me.

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      That’s just a quirk of the English language. In Brazil we also call them “North Americans” instead of Americans, because Americans refer to all countries and peoples in the Americas.

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        That’s exactly how I think of it, Americans are the peoples of the America’s, North, Central and South. The people in the US should not hold a monopoly on that name as it somehow infers that the rest of the Americas are somehow less American and their just not. Maybe I’m looking at it wrong as i grew up in the US and we regularly refer to ourselves as american and the rest of the America’s just don’t do that because of our cultural and linguistic differences. Maybe more a remnant of imperialism than a quark of the english language.

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    Am I the only one who thinks this, very specifically this, is good? I don’t want corporations deciding what to call things: they should use official maps. This is the only part of this fiasco working as it should.

    I don’t know what the legal process is for changing a place name, but as far as I know should come through Congress, assuming they were doing their jobs. It should usually originate from locals like with Denali, but there’s no locals here. It’s only a weak impotent congress afraid to claim their Constitutional authority, afraid to stand up for themselves, afraid to stand up for their constituents. Afraid to “tell it like it is”, vote their conscience or even best interest, afraid to stand up for their country or constituents

    I’m on the side of this being a distraction. It’s stupid and egotistical, and I’ll continue using the real name until it’s fixed. However it’s mostly noise for something that doesn’t ultimately matter much. Don’t let it distract you from much more important damage to our democracy, our society, our future.

    But also Linux would be a great choice for many people

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      I don’t think its good per se but I can see the value in your point. Especially in regards to it just being a distraction. Everyone is sure honed in a map rename when there’s other more legitimate issues to address.

      But, gulf of America nonsense makes easier distraction headlines.

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        And effing Trump just leapt out of his grave to cost me so much more money ….

        Just did the FAFSA form for my kids college and it sure is ugly. Apparently the new rules were written by a republican on 2019, and shoehorned into the huge COViD relief bill at the end of trumps first term. Remember the one where it was produced just like a day or two before it had to be voted on, so physically impossible to read. I’m so pissed, my second kid may not be able to go to his college choice

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      Look at every corporation bend the knee and enthusiastically embrace the fascist fusion of corporation and state.

      I’ve been saying it for a decade but it keeps getting more obvious. The oligarchs and their corporations have been financing the fascists, and working towards the takeover, the entire goddamn time. I’m not talking about Elon and the tech bros. I’m talking about the global 0.0001%, the tens of thousands of oligarchs who own the lions share of every market. They’ve spent decades watching the CCP and Russian oligarchy with envy, yearning for the one party state capitalism and authoritarian control of the masses — just replacing communism™️ with freedom™️, religion™️ and nationalism™️ — free from the risk that democracy represents to their wealth and power.

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    Not sure why anyone is surprised…they’re all bootlicking corporations that don’t want the mob boss to fuck with their mergers and/or investigate them for their various crimes.

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    Reported in Apple Maps as incorrect name. Won’t change anything, but it needed to be done.

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      Please everyone do your part to report the incorrect information on google maps.

      1. On your Android phone or tablet, open the Google Maps app.
      2. Navigate to the gulf of Mexico
      3. Tap Menu (your profile pictude) “Send Feedback” (way at the bottom) or “Help & Feedback”. Send product feedback.
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    From now on I will only refer to the USA as Estados Unidos de América.

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    The next Democrat should run with the goal to rename it to Gulf of Donald’s Defeat. I would vote for them.

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    Regardless of your stance on the name change, doesn’t the executive order (and subsequent updating of the names register or whatever it’s called) make it official? In which case the maps are just being updated to reflect it.

    Afaik they’re not changing it anywhere outside the US as (so far…) that’s the only place it’s been changed, so it’s not like they’re pushing that name in places where it’s not official.

    It’s also not unheard of to have map details that vary depending on where you are, to align with the official stance of wherever the map is being viewed from. Ukraine, bits of the India/Pakistan border, IIRC some islands off Japan disputed by China, etc.

    Not saying the name change isn’t stupid and not suggesting at all that the companies in question aren’t scum, but getting angry at the map maintainers for this change seems pointless. What did you expect them to do?

    Am I missing something?

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      Google Maps shows the translation of Gulf of America in parentheses in all languages, everywhere. That’s like if Mexico renamed the gulf to La biblioteca and they changed it for everyone. That’s objectively wrong.

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      As absolutely stupid as this is, it’s no different than changing the maps to show Denali rather than Mount McKinley. I don’t think you’re missing anything.

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        Is it no different, or is it different in a kind of huge obvious way? Denali is US property. The gulf ain’t.

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            Also meaningfully different, unless there is an executive order or it’s anglo-equivalent I’m unaware of. Many languages have a name for other countries that is different than the name those countries give themselves. Shall we use Germany itself as an example? How do you say South Africa in German? Südafrika, not Republic of South Africa, Republiek van Suid-Afrika, or any other the other 11 official languages from that country.

            Okay, sure, but that’s just a translation of South and Africa and everyone knows Germans physically cannot resist compound words, so how about France?

            It ain’t République française, or even Französische Republik. It’s Frankreich. This stuff generally happens organically and language develops slower than politics, as evidenced by Frankreich. That’s a lot different than this Executive Order. That’s an imperial move.

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      Thank you for taking the time to post this. I didn’t have the energy to explain to all the teenagers here that these companies have two choices: comply with this completely legal name change, or go to war with the White House over it to make some kind of statement. Gee I’d love it if big companies were out there jousting windmills over principles but I’d never expect it in a million years, at any stage of capitalism or under any other economic system. The business of business is business.