Everybody hates pedophiles, so by calling [insert group here], pedophiles then you get most people to hate you.
It’s projection they don’t want to remove pedophiles from their own ranks, and demonizing a scapegoat minority group they can blame their own failures on.
They really wish these articles were about trans people instead of clergy
Because it’s sexual and they aren’t developed to believe sex exists
Everyone is right; its an easy way to equate “deviancy” and to deny people rights. Its not just LGBT+; whenever nazis want to make a group of people a target, they accuse them of being “rapists” or “pedophiles.” The OG Nazis accused the Jews of wanting to molest Aryan women. Just look at Birth of a Nation. Or Trumps comments about Mexicans being rapists. It is also just generalized dehumanizing language.
But also: there is power in redefining “pedophilia.” It lets them attack LGBT+ by calling them “groomers” but then involve the services of inspectors who exist to… “verify” genitalia? It allows them to bring back child marriage or protect powerful clergy or rich assholes like Epstien, while attacking gay marriage. Libertarians attack the age of consent and want to bring back child labor. Everything becomes pedophilia except actual pedophilia. The real question becomes, why, when one has enough money or institutional power to do anything, like go to space or buy a senator to protect your wealth systemically, why does become extremely interested in fucking children?
Your mistake is believing that everyone is acting logically or in good faith.
Or, as it’s often the case, informed! Many people hate not just out of ignorance but also because everyone else is doing it but they don’t know why.
During the Lavender Scare, some homophobic government officials had to be explicitly informed what being gay meant because they were operating/ruining lives on a vague idea. :/
It’s not meant to make sense. It’s meant to make you shut down any argument in favor of giving non heterosexual people human rights. That’s all.
They took all the lessons learned from the satanic panic and the gay panic and applied them to the next target.
Transgender people often (wrongly) get their gender identity conflated with their sexuality. Transphobes already have a visceral reaction to a transgender person, so those feelings automatically extend to how they see a transgender person’s sexuality. And as others have mentioned they may be projecting their own perversions on other people. They have an unhealthy view of sexuality in general, which may be the origin for their transphobia aswell.
When I came out to my mother as transgender she had a hard time dealing with it. She seemed to have a weird fixation with my sexuality and sexual orientation whenever I tried to educate her on the subject, even after I explained to her that sexuality and sexual orientation is not related to my transgender identity.
My mom has always been a prude when it came to raising her boys and constantly would police our vocabulary and sexual jokes. But she had no issues making jokes and comments about my sexuality when I came out to her as a transgender woman. So I can only assume she had unresolved issues with the way she sees sexuality in a way that it makes her uncomfortable and she was projecting her own perversions and unhealthy view of sexuality onto my transgender identity. Because to her why else would I transition if not for my sexual perversions, since that’s the only way she can see world.
On a side note, ever since I started my transition I pretty much stopped watching porn all together. I masturbate less and my mind isn’t constantly fixated on sex and I’m able to experience the world through a much healthier lense. When I’m attracted to someone now, I’m not distracted by my sexual impulses as much and I’m much better able to connect with them as a person. So in short, embracing my transgender identity has dramatically decreased my uncontrolled sexual impulses. So when people paint us as some sort of deviant perverts, it’s actually quite the opposite and nothing could be further from the truth. Not to mention, our sexuality is only a sliver of our transgender identity and we don’t care for strangers making it a focus.
They are conflating trans healthcare for children with pedophilia.
I think that because of hypersexualization in society, which includes, for example, sexualization of nudity, has led to a situation where anything related to sex that deviates from the so-called norm, is lumped together. This also leads to transgender people who support helping young people with gender dysphoria or just want to raise awareness and make transgenderism not be a taboo and therefore also be taught in schools/talked about in public, to be lumped together with anyone who associates sex with children. of course the sex part in transgender people talks about gender while the sex part in pedophiles talks about sexual intercourse, and these people are so close-minded that to them talking about sex and children instantly means pedophilia.
I think it’s similar to people who consider nudist families to be incestual.
Of course there are also those who just can’t accept anything that is different from them and therefore just blame them at being the worst possible thing they can think of that they see any sort of connection to. For example, people call other races monkeys because they are too different to them to consider them human and so they are more related to something that isn’t human but is similar, and importantly inferior.
I think you’re correct except for your cause and effect conclusion.
They’ve ALWAYS been saying these things. It wasn’t caused by anything that’s developed in the past 100 years.
I would say that the “hypersexuality” is caused by people not listening to those fucks anymore.
Hyper sexualization has been around for hundreds if not thousands of years, it’s just that it has gotten way worse with the digital age.
There is an ongoing attempt to create an equivalence of Trans Persons (and anyone exposing youth to LGBTQ+ ideas in any form, including loving families) to pedophiles through CONSTANT repetition, despite any lack of widespread evidence. There is also a simultaneous attempt to strongly advocate for death penalty for pedophiles. I’m sure you can see where this is heading …
Mass purge of the Republican Party and owner class?
Only if justice was class blind, but it’s not.
That door can be made to swing both ways.
Only if you have the power to do so.
If the Republican Party can purge the United Kingdom they deserve the win that’s impressive range.
The question I want answered is was the (fake) word “pedosexual” made up by them or by trolls making fun of them?
“Pedosexual” was a false flag operation by 4channers to try and make people think LGBTQ folks supported pedos.
Was that with the MAPS thing?
MAPs is a 4chan troll yes
What are MAPs? First time I’ve come across it.
I think it was meant to be minor attracted person or some shit. I mostly just remember 4Chan trying to lump it into LGBT+ issues
Thank you for your reply.
I honestly have no idea if MAPs are trolls or actual pedos trying to rebrand.
Also, pedophiles are not all child molesters and vice versa.
In fact, most child abusers are not pedophiles. They victimize children not because they are children but because they are easy prey.
It’s about the power and control. If their victims weren’t children, they’d be called sociopaths or psychopaths.
Pedophilia can be easily treated but because of hate-mongers who have conflated these two things, many fear they’ll be arrested if they seek help. Even if they’ve never done anything wrong. Some do become abusers because they feel like they have no safe way of dealing with their feelings.
Trying to equate LGBTQ to pedophilia is using misinformation and lies to hurt and scare.
It’s the ultimate in hate and ignorance.
Transphobes aren’t using logic. They try to brand us as pedophiles to try to get rational people on their side and to normalize hate, but it’s a distraction. We’re obviously not pedos.
It also serves dual purpose because most transphobes look up to politicians who are literal pedos
Yuuup. Ten times out of ten it’s a republican politician who needs to “think of the children” a lot less.
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Of the infinitesimally small percentage who might be, (a) it has absolutely nothing to do with them being trans and (b) I wager they’d be less likely to act on it than cis pedos since the risk of violence is already significantly higher just from being trans. Not to defend pedos in any way- we want absolutely nothing to do with them
Use your brain
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You say, “biased towards the trans community,” I say, “biased against baseless bigotry,” as any sensible person should be.
Your ramblings may be scattered with statements that are agreeable in isolation (like “they are just people like the rest of us”), but your stance seems to ignore the fact that, unlike “the rest of us”, the trans community is being specifically targeted and marginalized, so for the sake of equity it seems fair (not biased) for the rest of us to more vehemently defend them.
This is how propaganda works. Take something you want people to hate, and insist that it is equivalent to something people already hate.
To distract from the fact that their churches are literal child rape conveyor belts
Are you telling me that lesbians weren’t allowed to get married because their was no groom(ing)?
it’s all part of the childist propaganda that says only people from outside of the family could ever hurt children when reality says otherwise. hence the church calling themselves God’s family, priests being called father, paternalistic bs like that
It’s very basic ‘think of the children’ rhetoric.
Our emotions are more easily manipulated in this way, because generally people are hard wired to protect babies and children.
So by associating trans people with paedophiles, right wingers are able to more easily hijack into what would otherwise be rational people. It also makes it more difficult to debate against because nobody wants to be labelled as someone who wants to hurt kids.
Best answer here. So much overthinking in this thread. Nope, OP nailed it, that simple, nothing need be added.
