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      Zero art has been stolen.

      You cannot steal a jpg.

      And protecting copyright is supporting big corporations.

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        And protecting copyright is supporting big corporations.

        Apart from - you know, all the photographers, designers, authors and musicians out there.

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          You mean the ones who routinely come out saying how X corporation stole their work and they received nothing for it?

          The ones where if you try to challenge the corporations hoarding human cultural works you’ll find yourself in a legal battle you can’t afford to enter.

          The amount of times an artist “wins” in the system vs a corporation is laughable. It’s designed to protect you and I, like the rest of the legal system does (it doesn’t).

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            You mean the ones who routinely come out saying how X corporation stole their work and they received nothing for it?

            Yes.The ones who routinely use copyright to get some form of payment. I know several people who had their photographs reublished by the Daily Mail and subsequently got payment. It happens. It’s an imperfect system, but still one that allows small artists to make a living.

            he amount of times an artist “wins” in the system vs a corporation is laughable.

            I mean, it really isn’t. It’s the entire backbone of an industry whereby, for example a photographer or illustrator can supply woirk to a magazine on a single use license. It’s how people who supply photo libraries make a living. It’s how small bands have at least some protection.

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              The difference is, even if it worked properly I would still not be in favour of denying people freedom to use cultural works.

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                Of course you believe corporations are people.

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                  Are you a professional at making shit up?

                  I’m an anarchist, I don’t believe in companies existing at all.

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                    I referred to OpenAI and you shot back “people.”

                    But hey, if a joke finally got you to start reading the stuff I was writing…

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        It’s really weird how so many people have become advocates for abolishing copyright the moment it benefits a giant corporation. No thought, no nuance, just “copyright bad.”

        It would be like somebody shouting about abolishing unions during the Starbucks protests, because police unions exist.

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          People have been saying Copyright is BS since at least the 90s when Disney pulled their shenanigans (again) and probably even before that

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            But isn’t it funny that so many of them have emerged when their nuance-free absolutism helps a big corporation and not the people it’s harming?

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          Copyright is law which is used to prevent free copying of media, while “intellectual property” is a term cooked up by corporate suits to generalize copyright, trademarks, and patents and equate them with property law. Richard Stallman wrote about this.

          It has become fashionable to toss copyright, patents, and trademarks—three separate and different entities involving three separate and different sets of laws—plus a dozen other laws into one pot and call it “intellectual property.” The distorting and confusing term did not become common by accident. Companies that gain from the confusion promoted it. The clearest way out of the confusion is to reject the term entirely.

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              Because I want the abolishment of all copyright and IP. Why are you fighting against liberating human culture?

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                You’re fighting for them because you don’t want them to have barriers in their corporate growth. Okay.

                IP laws are a last resort in encouraging people to be creative. Remind me, which of us hate creativity?