• Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
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    8 months ago

    Lpt: DO NOT ASK A PERSON IF THEY HAVE FOUND A JOB YET

    If they have and you’re important enough to them, you’ll know when they tell you. If they haven’t told you, either it’s none of your GODDAMN BUSINESS or they’re still looking.

    You asking just reminds them they don’t have a job. And if they’ve been looking for awhile, it’s even worse. Especially if you actually said “yet” or added in some other “it’s been awhile” modifier.

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      8 months ago

      Nah, sorry. If you’ve got a lazy teenager (or even adult) living rent free in your basement, you have every right to pressure them about finding a job.

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        8 months ago

        This is one of the toughest job markets I’ve ever experienced for specialized labor. I was part of the tech industry layoffs last year and I busted my ass for months before I got an offer. Many people I know are going through the same thing. It was honestly more draining than my actual job and I’d occasionally reach a burnout point where I couldn’t even look at listings without being consumed by anxiety and dread.

        On top of that, I was still paying ludicrous rent prices because the housing market is also shite and by the end of my unemployed period my net worth had been cut by almost 50%. I’m fortunate enough to have had an emergency fund but having the option to live rent free in my parent’s basement sure would have been nice.

        Obviously, every situation is different. But I’d advise anyone to be aware of the situation and ask how they can support somebody going through that rather than assuming they’re just being lazy and regularly pestering them.

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          8 months ago

          Hopefully the child in question is actually applying for those jobs. It’s a tough job market which is why you need to try extra hard.

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        8 months ago

        i dunno, that culture of everything (even your care for your son) being transactional and people kicking their kids out of the house at 18 for being “leeches” doesnt seem like it helps a lot. feels like extreme individualization.

        it doesnt help that working and paying rent is significantly more difficult than it used to be for the previous generations. despite advancing technology we now have to slave away much worse to afford living.

        all that said, i guess the problem its on the tone of it or how culture is in that regard, not so much about just the act of asking. i think capitalists have succesfully associated the grind with some sort of virtue.

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        8 months ago

        If you’ve got a lazy teenager (or even adult) living rent free in your basement

        I mean, pressure has its place. But when it becomes a particularly sore subject, especially in a tight job market, you’re just poking an open wound.

        If you want to help someone get on their feet, maybe try… actually helping. “Hey, I found someone looking to hire an entry level thing-you-do and here’s the contact information” / “I saw a help-wanted sign over at the place that has jobs you’re looking to fill” / “I asked my friend if they have any openings at Company and it sounds like they might be willing to give you a referral” is vastly more helpful than “Have you tried looking online yet?”

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        8 months ago

        Or, it’s supposed to be a depiction of an event, not a lesson of how people SHOULD behave.

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      The crystal generation! Now it looks bad to show interest in someone’s well being because it makes them uncomfortable for a few seconds. Also, only fucking God knows why it makes them uncomfortable!

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        The crystal generation!

        Is this the new slang boomers are using now that “snowflake” gets you laughed out of the room? Doesn’t quite roll off the tongue the same. You should workshop it a little.

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        If you care about their well being, why ask questions you know make them feel uncomfortable?

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          Well, I don’t understand why it makes them uncomfortable. If I’m on the loop about a friend or a family member that is looking for a job then I can help them if I know of an opportunity. Telling someone you haven’t found a job should be something good that opens doors for you. But good to know. I just don’t understand why it has become so incredibly important to avoid being uncomfortable.

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            unless you currently work in their industry, there’s a good chance you are unlikely to be helpful. and asking regularly feels like pressure, not support, to someone who may already feel intensely pressured or distressed by their circumstances.

            there’s a difference between being a little uncomfortable (ordinary, day-to-day stuff) and the kind of stress a person experiences who may be unable to meet their basic needs due to unemployment.

            if you care, ask how you can be supportive once and do that. trust that if something changes (and there is some other way you can be helpful), that person will let you know.

            edit - typo

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        Given:

        • the current status of the housing market
        • the job crisis that will come as a side effect of the AI revolution
        • the climate change fuckfest that is coming in the next 20 years

        I feel like this generation of young people might face something even worse than the great depression

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        8 months ago

        U 🤬 disgust me 😔

        good luck 🤞🍀 to U

        {{ How U liking a cup o’ yer own medicine Laddie ? }}