- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.ml
- technology@beehaw.org
- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.ml
- technology@beehaw.org
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025’’.
SEC. 3. PROHIBITIONS ON IMPORT AND EXPORT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
(a) PROHIBITION ON IMPORTATION.—On and after the date that is 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the importation into the United States of artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence technology or intellectual property developed or produced in the People’s Republic of China is prohibited.
Currently, China has the best open source models in text, video and music generation.
US is getting very desperate
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Good luck trying to ban OSS next, which would criminalize basically everyone who’s ever used a browser that isn’t IE, everyone who’s ever used an Android phone or a Chromebook, everyone who’s ever used any modern audio or video codec as the bulk of those are OSS too, and would destroy both Big Data and the Cloud, both of which are primarily Linux-based, and send the US back to the web’s dark ages, as in going back to when BBSes were popular.
Also, since this bill punishes people by making them spend most of their lives in prison, how are they going to lock up everyone who’s ever used Chromium or Firefox browsers, for example, or everyone who’s ever used Android or ChromeOS, which is most of the country’s population at this point, should that ban extend to a general OSS ban? (this part was originally a reply but I moved it to the main post)
Criminalizing something broadly isn’t usually done with the intention of going after everyone who does it, it’s so when they do single out someone they can charge them even if they haven’t actually caught them doing anything wrong (besides the thing everybody does).
See also: the way laws about taxes and drugs are often enforced.
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They’re american, they’d just pick one rich guy to ‘own’ all Foss projects and make it freenium within a year
Good luck with that too, especially as GPL3 has a clause specifically forbidding tivoization built into it.
The type of thing RH is doing with the RHEL EULA in order to attempt to circumvent GPL2 protections? Yeah, that wouldn’t fly under GPL3.
Til a judge ‘interprets’ that as being specifically about a company named TiVo or invalidates it in the supreme court.
Yk back in my day it was even unthinkable to have a president decide your gender for you, the precedent already being created is insane.
How would they even attempt to implement this? Will the US end up with a Great Firewall like China has? Even if Chinese models are delisted from Hugging Face (since Hugging Face is a US company and has to follow US law), they could just be hosted elsewhere.
Most likely, they’ll just enforce it against businesses using it since they’re the cash cow as far as OpenAI, meta et all are concerned
As far as I know they still haven’t forced all government agencies to use AI, which was talked about… So they also have a cash cow there.
Err, DOD is buying into OpenAI to manage the nuclear weapons.
…I have no words.
Bad chinaman used the free market to hurt american oligarchs so they got their regime whores in congress to restrict MY access to the good shit?!
Pathetic…
And frankly, it is the internet and model is open source. Get fucked daddy Sam.
These fucking clowns just refuse to learn about how technology works. Fucking morons.
The generation that can’t figure out their TV remote is attempting to legislate on cutting edge technology. Fucking series of tubes all over again. It never stopped though really.
The series of tubes is actually a better analogy than what this Bill imagines the internet to be.
This bill is likely sponsored by Sam Altman himself
You don’t expect this law to count for the people at the top, do you?
its probably not about that though.
I’m not even in to this shit and I’m going to download it right now because fuck those assholes.
Can someone explain briefly what I need to download that might not be available if this comes to pass? Like I did some searching and I saw stuff about Ollama but it wasn’t completely clear if that would be affected by this.
https://ollama.com/library/deepseek-r1
Very simple with ollama
Technically this isn’t the case. These are Deepseek distilled with Qwen and Llama depending on the weight, so they are no longer Deepseek.
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world this is the official, extremely large, one. https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1
Well yes, it does specifically say so in the link. There’s also one with the full model in what I linked
Oh nice, when Ollama first had this up I don’t think the 671b model was there. I stand corrected on that!
holy shit, you weren’t kidding when you said it was large.
So if I download this and somehow there is no longer a way to access the model online this will still work? I’m just a bit confused because I read a couple things that made it seem like even though the model is running locally it still needs a connection for some reason, if that isn’t true I’m sorry for the dumb question.
On first run it downloads the model, then you just run it locally
Thank you, that answers my question exactly.
So if I get a new computer in a few months it will no loner work. Maybe we can VPN into Sweden?
I assume you know you can transfer files from one pc to a other?
Jeeez, just copy the ollama’s directory (something like .ollama) from user’s dir to wherever. You can check and find the files inside. I find the published 14b really useful, it’s ten GB that think and reason in english.
Something about https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 , or at least that’s the model that everyone’s been talking about recently. It looks like it’d be half a terabyte to clone the entire repo though, and I don’t know how to use it either …
Doesn’t matter. People in the US already have the model, so sharing it within the US wouldn’t be illegal, and the law would only apply to anything “imported” 180 days after the law is passed (if it’s passed at all).
Also, how “importing” is defined will matter for any future legal arguments, and I would imagine this law would eventually be struck down for being overbroad.
Run it using ollama in a terminal (like ollama run model_name), ask it a question.
Ah, the supporters of the free market strike again. No competition allowed, Sam Altman and his American billionaire peers are entitled to all the money.
Exhibit no. 47475 of their parasite behavior
That number is way too low.
Oh what’s that? Yeah that’s Barbara Streisand’s house
It is much worse. I hope I am reading it wrong, but:
The term ‘‘technology’’ […] includes […] any semiconductor, circuit board, operating system, graphics processing unit, central processing unit, tenor processing unit, field-programmable gate array, random access memory, hard drive, solid-state drive, dataflow architecture, or cloud-computing service, that is manufactured, designed, developed, supplied, deployed, completed, […] [etc.] to function artificial intelligence […] and any other hardware, software, equipment, device, component, robotic computer, processor, network […] that is manufactured, designed, developed, supplied, deployed, […] [etc.] to function artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence.
This would mean that importing and exporting literally any piece of IT equipment, from a Ubuntu installer to a RAM chip, is illegal. Good luck & have fun.
It’s good old “everything is now illegal” law, selective enforcement does the rest. Straight out of the young dictatorship handbook
Rip iPhone.
Yes, yes, burn it all. Make the people very very angry. It takes a lot to engage a Luddite and we need them all.
Lol, protectionism for the administration’s fellators.
- Please Mr. Tramp ban Chinese AIs! They caused our stock to fall!
- Suck my dick first.
- … I am important… I’m creating shareholder value…
- You’re improving. Don’t forget the orange spray when you finish.
Capitalism truly thrives on competition and innovation
So you can’t download them, you should run them directly on tencent cloud or something? Smart…
I don’t even like ai but this just makes me want to download Deepseek as much as I can
Yes, that will show them for sure
The Land of the free sure likes taking away freedoms and banning stuff
That’s why I consider that tagline, ‘The Land of the Free,’ to be the failed punchline of a bad joke now. It hasn’t meant anything since before Reagan took office at least.
I don’t consider it valid so long as conscription exists, but now it’s an utter joke
People there have chosen that by voting republican. I mean, he told what he planned to do and got voted for anyway…
Freedom, but only for rich, white douchebags
One word: pathetic.
8 words: hilary clinton ai voice talking about ball sucking
Alright, now I’m hooked
The benefit of being an early adopter is my folder full of Donald Trump/Congressional Republicans suckin’ and fuckin’ before all of the fun models got taken down from easy access.
What next? Outlaw chinese food?
We’ll call it FREEDOM FOOD. Please, pass the FREEDOM beef chow fun, and the AMERICAN Fortune cookies, and BALD EAGLE AR-15 green tea.
bald eagle sheds a single tear 🦅 💧
Pretty sure fortune cookies are American anyway? Pretty sure they aren’t chinese
ABSOLUTELY NO COMPETITION ALLOWED.
It is making gen Z lazy, they start to “lay flat”
A succulent Chinese meal!?