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Together they can make the combined-arms-gulls.

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    You have to go pretty far back (to proto-Celtic, it looks like) to find a linguistic ancestor for the word “gull” that doesn’t just mean “that specific bird.”

    But in proto-Celtic, it looks like “weilanna” probably meant “wailer.” As in, “one who wails,” though we don’t know exactly what the suffix “-anna” means. A similar word in that language would’ve been “wailos,” which even though it sounds similar seems to have been unrelated to our modern term “wolf,” as it comes from a different proto-indo-european root.

    Anyway, the word “gull” does refer to the sounds that it makes more than anything else. So in figuring out what a landgull, airgull, and firegull might be, we need to find something noisy. Or just something annoying, given the derisive connotation of “wail.”

    Edit: This is, of course, assuming that we’re looking for different existing types of animals to be these creatures, rather than just (for instance) creating new, elemental forms of gulls; or “reskinning” seagulls with different elements; or inventing all-new animals to fill those roles.

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      I propose that cobras be referred to as firegulls. The hissing for the noise, and the venom spit into your eyes is “hot” (spicy).

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      Wailos or wailer is wolf, is that because they “wail” (howl?) Or is that just a coincidence?

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        It’s probably the result of a taboo. It’s why people say “bear” (the brown one) or “medved” (the honey knower) instead of “arth” or “ursus”.

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      No no no, you’re all wrong. It goes Agles, Beagles, Seagulls, Deegles, Eagles, etc. We’ve proven the existence of 3 of these species already, but the search continues for these other mysterious creatures the certainly must exist. In this TED Talk, I will…

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    I’ve seen many seagulls in my life.

    But I’ve never seen any of the others.

    And that’s terrifying. Stay vigilant.

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    I used to study animal management and there was a lecturer who wrote his uni thesis on “seagulls” and any time he heard someone call them seagulls he’d shout down the hallway “They’re herring gulls!”

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      A birdwatching friend of mine has decided that if he ever discovers a new species, he’s naming it “seagull” regardless of where he finds it or what it looks like just to piss off all the ornithologists.

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      Seagulls are not just herring gulls though. The term is used for any gulls people see near the sea. In the UK that’s herring, great black backed & and lesser black backed, black headed, common, and kittiwakes.

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    Reminds me of a John Hodgman bit - we have ice hockey, field hockey, and air hockey, implying the existence of fire hockey.

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    Long ago, the four gulls lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the fire gulls attacked…