• Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      Here we go again with the “we hate Israel so we won’t vote for Kamala and allow Trump to win so he can supply Israel with more bombs” crowd. Brother the entire ticket was pro Israel. Stop blaming this one issue as the reason she lost.

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        26 days ago

        The person said “one of the reasons”, as in one reason out of many. Sorry to be flippant, but jeez, people really need to learn to read.

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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            26 days ago

            It’s possible to be upset that you have no candidate who opposes genocide, no matter how preferable you think genocide(D) is to genocide(R).

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              25 days ago

              it’s a trolley problem. realistically, there are only two choices in the presidential election, and it’s our responsibility to vote for the one who will cause less harm. I fucking hate Kamala, but I held my nose and voted for her because trump is causing even more damage

              in an ideal world, we could have a real election and vote for an actually good candidate, but that is not the world we live in

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                25 days ago

                But all of you people who held your nose and voted for her are the reason why she felt able to run on a pro-genocide platform. If you all had more morals, the Democrats wouldn’t have felt safe running a pro-genocide candidate. (See the game can be played both ways when we decide not to blame the people who actually deserve it — those at the top).

                • Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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                  15 days ago

                  It’s called the ultimatum game and we know how actual people play it.

                  You’re given £100, but you have to offer some of it to me. If I don’t accept the offer we all get nothing.

                  We know, because we’ve played the game a bunch of times, if you’re greedy and don’t offer enough I will punish you. The Dems/Harris was greedy, and as such everyone was punished.

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        25 days ago

        Here’s how it works, and you can lay this to rest.

        I am an activist. I am or knocking doors for candidates. That means I’m volunteering my own time and money.

        If she isn’t willing to come my way on Palestine, why should I spend time and money on her?

        That’s why she lost. We all voted, but she had no grass support.

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          25 days ago

          There’s a difference between putting on a show to impress your activist buddies and actually caring about an issue. These people protesting Harris are like you, just putting on a show to aggrandize themselves. No different from the MAGAs.

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        25 days ago

        If you want to win elections, then you have to listen to the voters. If you push an unpopular genocial candidate like Kamala Harris on the voters, “the other guy is much worse” argument is not going to save you.

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        26 days ago

        Kamala lost because she was running on a Campaign of Joy™️

        The only way to win a campaign is to garner more rage than your opponent. Nixon’s campaign manager put it well- “The secret to politics is to know who hates who”. That’s how they flipped the then deep blue south into a Republican stronghold for 60 years.

        Frankly I think this is why we are doomed to civil war, candidates that try to calm things down will always lose to candidates who fan the flames.