Who has the video when she was doing a rally for her campaign and protester said free Palestine and she shut them down ?
sigh looking back, we saw all the signs… https://youtu.be/FTIFTsrx0fI
I remember in that same time and day the whole leftist internet were retweeing her clip and hashtagging #ImSpeaking celebrating how powerful she was shutting down a crowd asking their VP and presidential nominee to do something about the genocide, in that same day, 500 people were massacred by Israel. It was too disgusting, and has aged like rotten milk
She could have been if she didn’t fuck up the Gaza situation…
Anyone who didn’t vote out of protest did far more to “fuck up the Gaza situation” than she did.
This is just patently false but way to pin the blame for her actions on random individuals with no power to change anything.
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition
You can’t win electrons by running on a pro-genocide platform. You have to listen to your voters to win elections.
You can’t win elections by running on a pro-genocide platform
Unless you’re a Republican, of course, then it becomes a necessity.
The solution isn’t to become a republican. Though democrats seem to think it is.
Same people attacking any suggestion that their inaction let the orange monkey back into the WH. But hey, ‘it wasn’t me who voted him in’, right?
Remind them that throwing their vote away was a vote for garbage, and garbage won.
Lol. And yet they continue to double down here and in other forums about how destroying the country is somehow better for themselves in the long run.
Harris was never going to win.
So you voted for garbage, don’t be mad you got what you wanted
I didn’t vote for Trump. F that piece of shit Nazi
Did you throw your vote away on someone even less likely to win than Kamala, or did you decide voting wasn’t your thing, because both of those were votes for the garbage nazi currently trying to turn as many kids into skeletons as possible.
Wrong again. I’m in California. My vote for POTUS never mattered.
people made it clear that supporting genocide was a line they wouldn’t cross, this was apparent even without the polls. how are we still blaming voters when the dems still refused to adjust position? they chose Israel over winning, that’s completely on them.
Yeah it’s bullshit. I voted third party because dems decided Israel is worth supporting. But let’s be mathematically accurate here.
Even if all the people who DID vote that did not vote republican had voted for the democrat, there would not have been enough electoral college influence to affect the outcome.
You would have needed more non-voters to vote. But a non-voter then was probably a never-voter. There are people that exist who simply don’t care one way or the other who is in charge and you can’t convince those people to go vote. Sure you can try, but in the end it’s the people who did vote who get what they voted for.
Regardless of all of that I find the “you should have voted democrat” argument to be exceptionally stupid. The democrat party is backing a government that I find to be morally reprehensible, as do most Americans, what should have happened is those who were saying “yeah it’s bad but I’m still gonna vote dem” should have just voted for a third party. Why vote against your interests?
So you don’t care at all about what Trump is doing right now. You don’t care that trans people are being explicitly targeted by the federal government.
That’s a weird way to interpret what I said. I care very much about what the current administration is doing. I care very much about my trans friends and the trans community. I’m very aware how things currently are.
My point is simply that it is illogical to blame people who voted third party. Because mathematically even if every single person who did vote third party voted for the democrat the Republican Party still would have won the election.
Democrats want to win? Run on a platform that is actually popular. Don’t support people like Hakeem Jeffries and Kamala Harris who talk down to their would be constituents. Don’t support people like John fetterman who is basically just a Republican posing as a democrat.
So, they refused to support genocide (a position, to be clear, that I agree with) by taking an action (voting third party) or inaction (not voting) that would clearly, and obviously, give a candidate who supported genocide a higher probability of not just winning, but being supported by others with the same opinion?
Voters were put in an invidious position and there were no good options, but there was one option that was clearly worse in every way, and they either directly or indirectly chose to support him.
Donald Trump secured a clear victory in the 2024 presidential election, but some online posts claimed Kamala Harris would have won several key states if not for ballots cast for third-party candidates. This misrepresents available data – preliminary totals show that even with all the non-Trump votes in the seven biggest battlegrounds, the vice president would not have secured an Electoral College win.
How many people decided not to vote? As I mentioned, it wasn’t just third party voters, but also those that chose not to vote. Also, to be clear, voters should not have been put in that position in the first place. However, they were put in that position, and given that there were only two possible outcomes to the presidential election, there really was only one sane choice to make. Unfortunately many chose a different one.
People who knew what would happen if your party didn’t abandon its support for genocide warned you what would happen.
Centrist democrats thought they knew better and charged right ahead with a shit candidate with a single morally reprehensible policy and a timid little bunch of promises no one could trust after the previous 4 years of broken promises.
You were wrong. You lost. You should have listened. You have the opportunity to listen now. You don’t want to. You want to blame people who don’t support the only policy the party won’t back down on.
The problem is, it’s not really the dems who lost, it’s everyone who isn’t a fascist. The party as a whole isn’t really affected by this (and that’s a huge problem), and most of the candidates who lost their elections are part of the party and will just carry on. The way that changes is through pushing for, and supporting, candidates at all levels who support a better agenda, not at the ballot box.
The whole system sucks; be mad about it, push to change it, but I don’t think that those who voted third party, or chose not to vote think this, overall, is better than the results of Harris being in the White House, and they, combined, could have changed this outcome.
Ultimately this election is done, the situation is what it is, and, with a bit of luck, there’ll be elections next year and in '28 where some of this can start to be undone. I wish I was more confident in that.
The problem is, it’s not really the dems who lost, it’s everyone who isn’t a fascist.
Everyone who isn’t a fascist lost when the “good” party supported genocide.
I thought she promised us she was leaving politics. Why is she speaking at all. She should be in Nevada selling insurance.
This is exactly why the US ended up with trump. 0 critical thinking.
What are we supposed to do instead? Hug and kiss her for flubbing what should have been an easy election?
0 critical thinking.
agreed. Your comment reflects that. She didnt write that book because she sees her career in politics as over. Use your head.
She’s selling a book, not being “in politics”. She told the truth.
More honest than these phony protesters that are too cowardly to protest Trump, the man they preferred to be president.
What makes you think these protestors are not also protesting Trump?
She is giving political advice on why she lost.
And by political advice I mean refusing to take responsibility and blaming everything on the left.
I dunno man I think talking about politics constantly despite not being in office counts as “being in politics”, even if it’s not technically correct
100%. She wants to critique it with an outsiders brand, not actually be an outsider. In her dumb “107 days” book she outlines no way forward. The same as her entire career. She is pathologically incapable of leading in any particular direction, and just wants some sort of successful outcome, not any particular goal for any particular reason. Any win will do. She’s the perfect empty headed puppet.
Kamala Harris ran on a pro-genocide platform and was very supportive of Israel. This was one of the reasons why she lost.
Trump is doing a fantastic job supporting Israel in her place
If you want to win elections, then you have to listen to the voters. If you push an unpopular genocial candidate like Kamala Harris on the voters, “the other guy is much worse” argument is not going to save you.
Kamala lost because she was terrible at everything
Kamala lost because she was running on a Campaign of Joy™️
The only way to win a campaign is to garner more rage than your opponent. Nixon’s campaign manager put it well- “The secret to politics is to know who hates who”. That’s how they flipped the then deep blue south into a Republican stronghold for 60 years.
Frankly I think this is why we are doomed to civil war, candidates that try to calm things down will always lose to candidates who fan the flames.
Here we go again with the “we hate Israel so we won’t vote for Kamala and allow Trump to win so he can supply Israel with more bombs” crowd. Brother the entire ticket was pro Israel. Stop blaming this one issue as the reason she lost.
Here’s how it works, and you can lay this to rest.
I am an activist. I am or knocking doors for candidates. That means I’m volunteering my own time and money.
If she isn’t willing to come my way on Palestine, why should I spend time and money on her?
That’s why she lost. We all voted, but she had no grass support.
There’s a difference between putting on a show to impress your activist buddies and actually caring about an issue. These people protesting Harris are like you, just putting on a show to aggrandize themselves. No different from the MAGAs.
I dont think you read my comment.
The person said “one of the reasons”, as in one reason out of many. Sorry to be flippant, but jeez, people really need to learn to read.
But how can it be one of the reasons when her opponent was way worse on this issue, and all the other issues
It’s possible to be upset that you have no candidate who opposes genocide, no matter how preferable you think genocide(D) is to genocide(R).
it’s a trolley problem. realistically, there are only two choices in the presidential election, and it’s our responsibility to vote for the one who will cause less harm. I fucking hate Kamala, but I held my nose and voted for her because trump is causing even more damage
in an ideal world, we could have a real election and vote for an actually good candidate, but that is not the world we live in
But all of you people who held your nose and voted for her are the reason why she felt able to run on a pro-genocide platform. If you all had more morals, the Democrats wouldn’t have felt safe running a pro-genocide candidate. (See the game can be played both ways when we decide not to blame the people who actually deserve it — those at the top).
It’s called the ultimatum game and we know how actual people play it.
You’re given £100, but you have to offer some of it to me. If I don’t accept the offer we all get nothing.
We know, because we’ve played the game a bunch of times, if you’re greedy and don’t offer enough I will punish you. The Dems/Harris was greedy, and as such everyone was punished.
Goddamn these fucking protesters are such inauthentic losers. So “brave” yet terrified to protest the Trump administration.
Fucking phonies. They don’t even remotely give a shit about Palestinians.
The pro-Palestine movement is protesting against the Trump administration almost every day. Just because Democrats are one degree better doesn’t mean they get a pass for supporting the modern-day Holocaust for 16 months and handing the country on a silver platter to Trump.
Every Democrat who played a part in propping up the inanimate corpse of Biden and supported the genocide in 2024 need to be run out of politics and reminded of their miserable fucking FAILURE to stop fascism for the rest of their lives.
And people like you are why trump won.
If such people are why the democrats lost, then maybe the democrats should’ve listened to them? Basic politics 101. Next time try listening to voters if you want their votes.
Kamala Harris is why Trump won. She made it clear that she didn’t want the pro-Palestine movement’s votes and paid the price, that’s how democracy works.
So Trump got the “pro-Palestine” movement’s support via them deciding to not vote for his opposition. Great job. Really helped Palestine by easing the way for the racist dictator!
🤷♀️ you don’t get a pass for supporting genocide just because your opposition is one degree worse. If democrats wanted to win they should have listened to the voters and not their billionaire consultants and AIPAC donors. Sucks to suck!
If your goal was to stop the genocide, you should’ve voted for the person that values human lives over the one that doesn’t value anyone but himself. There was a chance we could’ve mounted enough political pressure that Harris would eventually cave. There’s zero chance of that with Trump. Forest through the trees.
If your goal was to stop the genocide, you should’ve voted for the person that values human lives
Neither of the top two candidates qualify.
There was a chance we could’ve mounted enough political pressure that Harris would eventually cave.
Read this again. Pay attention to how weak of an argument it is. There was a chance she would eventually cave? Come on, no one really believes that, especially when she gave no indication that she believed anything different than Trump or Biden about Israel’s genocide of Palestinians. You just got an “I can change her” vibe from her with no evidence.
She blamed anti genocide protesters for her loss and is trying to make money off it.
Remember, Kamala is the reason Trump won.
Lol no, the people who stayed home thinking their no protest vote was going to do anything are just as guilty for what’s going on right now as if they were maga voters.
Fk off with that bs.
Palestine protest voters had a choice and chose the absolute worst option by staying home
No they did good. Next time tell your Democrat to stop supporting genocide.
If she shut up and went away, then protesters probably wouldn’t bother her.
Why should she do that?
Because she’s supposed to be a good person who isn’t tone deft?
Guess that was just an act too.
She’s a politician. Everything’s an act. She’s also not openly fascist. The other option we were given is. I really don’t see how this is hard for so many of y’all.
You keep assuming leftists were why she lost.
That’s because you deepthroat propaganda.
Leftists overwhelmingly voted for Harris.
No, I’m saying a percentage of leftists helped Trump win because they succumbed to propaganda. IMO, the leftists that opted out of voting for Harris don’t get to pretend like they did it to help Palestine. Trump getting back into office is, and was always going to be worse for Palestine. Seeing as you’re willing to put words into my mouth, this is the only response you’re going to get from me. Not interested in conversing with rage-fueled teenagers.
The data shows that the people who voted for Biden and stayed home for Harris were democrats and independant boomers, genx, and a small amount of Millennials. Of these age groups the ones who stayed home the vast majority were white men/women, and hispanic men. Again these were boomer Neoliberals who didn’t want to vote for a colored woman.
If every single gaza protester voted for Harris (assuming none of them did) then it wouldn’t be anywhere close to enough votes for her to win.
Quit deepthroating the anti leftist, anti young propaganda plz
If you lose to Donald Fucking Trump, you should be too ashamed to show your face in public.
That’s a pretty emotional argument. She’s a mature woman in her 70’s. I doubt she would see it the way you do.
Would you end your current career if you had some sort of major failure? Personally, I would try to learn from it and do better next time.
If my failure caused 4 years of Donald Trump? Yes, I would find another career. How many fully loaded 747s can a pilot crash before they shouldn’t be speaking authoritatively on how to fly planes?
You really like false equivalency arguments, don’t you? Harris didn’t singlehandedly cause four more years of Trump. That took the entire GOP working/plotting towards it for four years, as well as many failures in leadership, on both sides, among many departments. I blame Biden’s DOJ for not prosecuting Trump for inciting an insurrection more than I blame Harris’ rushed campaign and handful of poor responses to questions. I also blame voters like you, who still fail to see the big picture and, instead, waste energy trying to punish neoliberals for playing neoliberal politics when the choice is between more neoliberalism and outright fascism. Both choices suck, but one leaves the option for a long game, while the other leads to minorities like me being murdered by the state.
What would the Democrats have to do to lose your support?
How much failure and faked impotence does it take for you to discard them?
Don’t answer that, just think about it.
I don’t support democrats. I’m opposed to fascism. I think I’ve thought about it a little more than you have.
Imagine a pilot flying a plane into a building and then going on book tours. Even worse, it’s kind of obvious the pilot did it because rich people and foreign nations told him to.
“I’m not the pilot right now”
Palestine voters, you are a bunch of fucking morons
One candidate (Kamala) was willing to listen to you
The other candidate wants to level Gaza and turn into a resort
And you went with the candidtate that wants to turn Gaza into a resort.
I personally never gave a fuck about the people of Palestine. I still don’t give a fuck about them, I just have too much on my plate to care about them. But I did vote for Kamala and I did hope she’d help Palestine, but she lost…so eh I geuss Palestine gets fucked.
One candidate (Kamala) was willing to listen to you
“I’m speaking now.”
