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    “Time to switch to uBlock Lite or another ad blocker”

    No. Time to switch to Firefox or derivative such as Librewolf.

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      Unfortunately I’m stuck with Chrome at work so having something like Ublock Lite available is somewhat helpful. I just hope it still blocks youtube ads because they’re the worst.

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        it seems to work on youtube so far, but that could also be due to the previous custom filters I installed months ago when yt ramped up their “no adblocker” campaign. UBO still works in the sense that all of the filters and lists you’ve installed are still there and functioning, you just can’t update the extension. I’m still running UBO alongside UBO lite and it’s working fine for now (knock on wood) until I can afford a new Windows machine.

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        I am running a portable LibreWolf on my work issued, locked-down-with-a-chastity-belt-and-thrown-the-keys-into-the-fires-of-Mount-Doom-in-Mordor laptop with uBlock extension installed.

        Try that and see if it works.

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            Did they mention external device access? I only see a mention of portable LibreWolf which I assume is referring to the “can just be ran from a folder dropped anywhere on the filesystem” version of portable, not necessarily that it’s an external device.

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            This sort of exaggeration is typically used for comedic effect. Sorry for trying to throw a smile on a random person’s face. You must be very fun to hang around at parties.

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        ah you too work for a company that will let you install firefox but no extensions or addons??

        fml

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          We handle a lot of IP so I can’t install anything on the PC that isn’t pre-approved (like MS Teams). I am able to add certain extensions like Ublock but not others like Keepa (Amazon price tracker).

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          My company enforces specific add-ons for Firefox so I installed and use LibreWolf which our admins don’t lock down - only Chrome and Firefox. I wanted a browser that I would use separately from my work that didn’t specifically need their add-ons which include traffic sniffing crap. I know that if I want to do any personal browsing and guarantee it’s personal, I should use my own device but I was honestly just annoyed by the additional CPU cycles the security add-ons were using.

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      when I swapped my laptops, I already had chrome on the newer ones which I’m still using, but when I heard about this ublock origin saga, I started putting all my passwords in protonpass, and customised my Firefox install to my liking, CSS and everything. All ready to switch now, and I’m gonna be thanking my past self profusely for actually choosing to switch instead of vegetating.

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      Brave is actually very good and seems to have a great blocker

      ps. their mobile browser has also been great on older phones

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          not enabled by default, but if you want to use them, yes

          i haven’t seen a single ad or been annoyed by any crypto shite so far

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            I installed Brave earlier this week and that’s mostly true. There’s some built in stuff that will show by default, notably the toolbar buttons and the notification style alert on the new tab page for one of those things mentioned, but you can just close the notification and remove the toolbar buttons and you’re set.

            That said, I think it’s still in the data monetization market like Alphabet with anonymized tokens, though I don’t remember the details.

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              this is disabled by default, i think that is the BAT system that also uses crypto somehow

              i also made a handful of tweaks to tidy up the UI, easily done in the settings

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          ps. Brave has also built-in P2P and TOR features among other features

          actually an interesting browser

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            Be careful with the Tor features, they allow you to open some onion sites but don’t supply the extra anonymity/security of the actual Tor browser.

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              good point, i think this feature just makes it easier to access TOR domain sites without an extra browser rather than being the anonymity tool that TOR browser is

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        To add: the CEO got kicked out of Mozilla and switched to crypto after he was caught donating to outlaw gay marriage.

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          that was before 2008 as far as i can tell, has eich and/or the organisation continued to act homophobicly?

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            He got caught sending money to a bigoted organization, got in trouble, and then embraced dark money.

            Until he makes it right to the LGBTQ+ community and makes his finances public, only a fool or another bigot would give him the benefit of the doubt.

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              i didn’t see any mentions of eich using dark money can you link me to more info? that’s interesting

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        No. Brave has a history of modifying links you click on to add affiliate information. The only time to use Brave is if user agent spoofing for “chrome only” websites doesn’t make it work.

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          ps. i also first started using Brave when certain streaming sites refused to work in Firefox :)

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          they appear to have stopped that 4 years ago and apologized for the mistake

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            Right, but I don’t trust them as a result and I don’t feel comfortable recommending them or not pointing it out. Meddling with links you click is malware behavior.

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            Also the recent case when they installed VPN. In general, they give off the impression that they don’t respect users’ consent a lot. Mozilla has been similarly sneaky, like with the opt-out ad tracking recently - thus I would only consider Librewolf or hardening - but Brave seems to be more extreme in their advertising business.

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              the VPN was a feature of the software at the time and not enabled unless you signed up but as you point out if software changes its service without explicitly telling users these days it feels bad

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                Welll yeah - point was that they installed a service without consent. And not just a browser feature, but something crossing a whole another boundary. AFAIK also, while the tunnel itself was not enabled, the service itself was turned on automatically.

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                  according to the minutes of research i did ;-) i got the impression the service was disabled by default. i don’t know the tech details otherwise so i don’t know if it made the system vulnerable or unstable in any way. i didn’t find anything like that.

                  more to the point is that they should have said that VPN resources were being installed

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      Been using Firefox for as long as I can remember now. Never had a reason to switch away, and I’m feeling rather vindicated.

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        There was a period some years ago where Firefox and Chrome were leapfrogging each other: Firefox would get slow and crap so I’d switch, then Chrome would get slow and crap and I’d switch back to FF, and so on. I’ve been on Chrome for quite a while it seems, until this development with uBO, well for me the internet is unusable without a shitblocker, so that’s the end of Chrome. Thankfully FF is up to the job.

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        I switched to Chrome probably a decade ago, because at the time it was significantly faster. I switched to chromium at some point and ended up back on Firefox when Google’s password manager stopped working on every browser except Chrome. Firefox is noticeably faster these days and doesn’t crash as often.

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    I feel like I have seen this news since forever, I am happily living my life with Firefox… Although the android mobile really needs some love.

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      Eh, Firefox on Android works pretty well for me (I actually use Mull). There are a handful of websites that have issues, but many of them also have issues on Vanadium (Chromium on GrapheneOS), so I just use my desktop for those.

      What issues are you running into?

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        What issues are you running into?

        Tab management is plain bad, and the UI doesn’t feel snappy as, let’s say, Cromite or Chrome.

        All those are paid off because of the extension ability in Firefox.

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          Really? Tab management seems largely equivalent to Chrome, and the UI feels totally fine to me. Are you on an older device perhaps? It’s a bit slow on my old phone (4 years old), but my new one (Pixel 8) is absolutely fine.

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            Nah, my device is not high end, but it ships with a SD 865, and 6 GB of RAM.

            Have you used Chrome recently? It is just a better experience with Android, except because of the ads and shitty Google’s hand lol.

            It feels so good to have your grouped tabs always accessible at the bottom and you can quickly switch just by tapping the little icon.

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              I’ve used Vanadium (GrapheneOS build of Chrome), which is fine. And I didn’t know about that tab grouping feature, that’s pretty nice! I tend to only have a few tabs open though, so I just swipe on the URL bar to jump between them, which works acceptably well.

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                Yeah, many of us hoard a lot of tabs, for the better for worse, but even after some simple web searches you can gather a lot of links quickly, so it is always handy to have a good tab management.

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                  Yup, I regularly get 10+, but I clean them out pretty quickly on my phone and usually leave 1-2 open the rest of the time. My desktop is another story though, I can easily get 100+ on there, especially in the middle of a project.

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      Oh man. Once Firefox on Android got extension support, I hopped on that train so hard. No ads on mobile browser? Heck yeah.

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        Well, if my memory serves well, Ublock Origin has been in Firefox mobile for a long time already but I get you.

        Although even before I did the switch I rarely saw ads on Google because I have always used DNS ad blocking (whether using my pi-hole or AdAway root version) but yeah Ublock Origin is just so much better.

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        It has extensions support for like 6 years at this point. Unless you got some extreme obscure extensions

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        One thing I would like is to selectively enable extensions in the “custom tab” modal for Firefox.

        When I open an article, and it’s riddled with js and auto play video, I have to hit “Open in Firefox” to get uBlock to engage.

        It would be nice to have the reader mode button in this view as well.

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          If it helps, you can dig into Androids settings and use Firefox for the default in-app browser for most apps. That’s what I did, anyway, and it’s been fantastic.

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      i like it, tbh I barely use the phone. I need more RAM on it for it to be more useful. It’s crazy that even 8GB is not good enough. Dam Samsung bloat. I wish I had a stylus option for Google pixel or something that can take a privacy respecting OS.

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        The Samsung bloat is real. I have two identical Galaxy Tabs, one with Lineage and one stock, and the software on the stock one is so annoying to go back to after using the Lineage one.

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    And my phaseout of Chrome is complete. My two browsers are now Firefox and Edge. Bit surprised at the latter tbh but it seems reasonably adequate as a secondary browser.

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      Yup same here Firefox for personal use and Edge for work since it deals better with all the MS sites

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      My understanding is that Edge is Chromium and will also eventually be impacted by this.

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      Edge isn’t really better in any way. It’s both Google and Microsoft, like the marriage of awful

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        I used it for a while. It honestly was a really good browser for a long time but since everything started going this shit it quickly fell from my good graces.

        The only time I even think of missing it is when I have to open a page that is optimized against Firefox on purpose because the developers decided to use some janky Javascript plugin and didn’t test.

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    I don’t understand why all these chrome derivatives and firefox don’t just band together and extend manifest v3 with some vendored standardised extension that addresses the limitations.

    Browsers do that for CSS and JavaScript features already. An extension could just check if the browser supports the “unlimited filters” option and use it if its available.

    I have never researched it but heard that the permissions of manifest v3 are much better for privacy.

    I am in favor of removing manifest v2 if the vendored extension becomes a reality.

    Browsers already have too much complexity, lines of code and feature creep.

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        From what I understand, the limit on the lists is not the only problem with it - my main concerns are a) lists only being able to update together with the extension itself and b) some features apparently being fundamentally disallowed, like the element picker I am dependent on.

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    Chrome is the adblock-block? You might have outblocked me today, but I’ll firefox you away!

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    the company said it would start turning off Manifest V2 extensions

    …in time for Black Friday & the holiday sales?

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    I frequently forget that chrome is installed on my phone. The only time I’m forced to use it is about once a year when I order Papa John’s Pizza takeout. Their checkout page doesn’t seem to work in any other browser.

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    We got here by using their softslop… only way to kill them is now to move on to different merchants. deny parasite the profits.

    Gaming 101