Chatcontrol is once again stopped. Good work again everyone who stood up, this is once again a win everytime it is a win.

Next country that is up for Presidency is Poland 🇵🇱 who are anti-chatcontrol.

Patrick Breyer website

chatcontrol timeline

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    See you guys next year.

    If something is part of the world plan, it’s not going away.

    Maybe it’s OK. The big tech sites are anyway becoming mostly ads and Ai content, so it will probably become like cable TV before people just quit it.

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      French support is wild to me. Baltic’s support is probably due to arrangements with Putin.

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    Wait, how the fuck are only Central Europe, Finland and Estonia in support of encryption. What the actual fuck people?

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      I can only talk about France as that one is super obvious to me: They been fighting (peaceful) protests organizers. Like hacking their phones and getting all their data from all the possible platforms, in the hopes of shutting them down using the slightest thing that can get them into trouble.

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    Cool, glad for y’all.

    Hey, now that you’ve taken care of that, we’re having a little fascism problem here in America. We were wondering if you could, ya’know, return that little favor we did for ya in the 1940s?

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      We’re dealing with a little WW2 style problem ourselves with Russia eating away at Ukraine. Would love to come and help you all, but before we do anything to a country that prides itself in having the biggest stick we gotta clean up our back yard first.

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      Yes this will be brought up again and again but everytime it falls it is a win for us, i think it is important to remebemer that. We need to share information and stand up next time too. it can also become better in the future, Swedish FRA (like USA´s NSA) says e2ee is important and urges people to use it. Netherlands inteligent agency says that chatcontrol harms national security. FBI and CISA urges people to use e2ee after china hacked into lawfull intercept backdoors. All this have happend since last time chatcontrol was on the agenda and this time 2 more countrys has agreed to say no.

      FBI and Cisa: Nederlands inteligent agency 1: Nederlands inteligent agency 2: Swedish FRA:

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        FBI and CISA urges people to use e2ee after china hacked into lawfull intercept backdoors.

        Which FBI installed.

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      The thing is that the presidency of the Council will change (I remember reading: from Hungary to Poland) at the beginning of 2025. Now look at the map which sides Hungary and Poland are on.

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      Yes, this time… but we won again and i think it is important to remember that. i think this will be brought up again but we need to spread the word when it is happening and stand up again and again when it is happening. We need to win everytime but the politicians only needs one time “democracy” it is called.

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        Politicians do not understand or care about consent then:

        No means no, do not ask again, we will let you know if we want something so stop bringing it up.

        Also agreed: Representative democracy isn’t true democracy and leads to problems like this.

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      Certain death tomorrow is better than certain death today.

      I share your pessimistic view on what this win means, but don’t get disheartened. It is still a win for privacy and citizen rights.

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    Is it the case where they postponed the vote again because they anticipated it being turned down and needing to wait ages before being allowed to vote again?

    If so, perhaps Poland could host the next vote, deliberately not postponing when it seems it’s not going to pass. Maybe even start trolling and remove concessions that would’ve pleased other countries, forcing even more anti-votes and removing some risk of it passing unexpectedly (I don’t know if that would be viable to actually implement though).

    We need it to properly fail big time if we don’t want to fear for our privacy every couple months

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      Don’t get to excited. The ÖVP really wants chat control and it’s one of the many pain points of the current coalition talks with SPÖ and Neos.

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        well, they havent succeeded, thats all that matters right now i think. Nobody needs to win, ÖVP just needs to lose.

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        it certainly isnt usa bad. But if you are in the know, certain partys really wanna change that and some people are trying their best that it wont happen. Of course we have a lot of good stuff, no country is perfect, as is austria.
        Do we have it alright? sure yeah, but could we have it a lot better? hell yeah.

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        In Austria we say “Sudern auf hohem Niveau”

        Yes, compared to other countries Austria is very good. But things could still be much better.