Tesla Cybertruck appears to be facing significant sales challenges. After initial hype faded, and over a million reservations turned out to be as real as unicorns, Tesla is now enabling leasing options and free upgrades to move its inventory of the futuristic pickup truck. The company’s recent silence on the Cybertruck, even omitting it from their earnings call, speaks volumes about the situation.
Tesla initially projected sales of 500,000 Cybertrucks annually and established production capacity at the Giga Texas for 250,000 units per year. After working through the initial reservation backlog with fewer than 40,000 deliveries, the automaker is now struggling to sell the remaining vehicles.
Probably would have helped if it didn’t look cobbled together out of sheet metal for a low-budget post-apocalypse movie. I picture Humungus standing up in it chasing Mel Gibson.
I just had a talk with a friend of mine in southern Ontario who lives in a farming rural area. He likes cars and often does searches for used vehicles in his area. In a 200km area around Brantford, there are over 200 used Teslas on sale down there over the past month or two because people are dumping them because they don’t like the brand.
The well moneyed sort who buy Teslas also like to change cars more often than the rest of us. Some of them are going to even more expensive brands like Rivian, and there’s a huge array of less expensive, more practical options.
Here’s how I personally see the brand transformation. I don’t believe these people are so principled that they are dumping these cars in protest. It’s more that the appeal that used to be there: of being part of the future, of moving off gas and embracing clean tech to help save the world… that little halo just isn’t part of the brand anymore. I see Teslas all the time where I live with license plates like “BYE CO2” and “LOL GAS.” But no one is going to hop on board that Tesla hype train any longer. They are no longer novel, they no longer virtue-signal and yes have actually become a bit icky. But I think we’re just seeing the end of the mirage, not really any kind affirmative lashback.
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Have they tried suing people who don’t want to buy one?
In case you weren’t referencing this, be amazed:
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-first-year-2023-11?op=1
I was referencing how Elon is suing companies for not wanting to advertise on X. But this is amazing, too.
Hmm, it’s kind of like he has an established MO for when his businesses are failing due to his own poor decisions and lack of business sense.
Does that mean Canada and Mexico will be sued if the tariffs don’t make them beg to be annexed?
Trump lifted the tariffs. At this point I think it was just a smoke screen so there would be less coverage of Elon taking over the Treasury.
There are no smoke screens with this government. They don’t “do X to cover for Y.” None of it is “a distraction.” They’re impulsive children. They do X because they want to do X. But what they have learned is that if you move fast and do a lot of bad things all at once, you usually get away with at least some of them.
He delayed them for a month.
Nononono.
It’s that woke mind virus! Those infectious liberals have prevented true patriots from buying his shitty cars to proposely smash their fingers in the trunk.
And now he has access to the government billing office and all our SS numbers. Don’t hold your breath for your tax refund this year.
Hmm, it’s almost like he’s an entitled billionaire not comfortable living in the real world with people who actually have free will! I don’t care how many zeros, he’s a loser.
Probably an effort to prevent scalping. Oh, how optimistic they were…
Tesla may also refuse to sell you any future vehicles
Oh no 😥
You joke, but I wouldn’t be shocked if someone in particular gets that brainwave before too long
They should force the government use cybertrucks for employe transportation just like Elon did with X and NTSB
That might be the biggest harbinger of whether musk or Trump is running things. Trump has banned fed government from buying EV.
So much of the promo for the Tim and Eric mandatory attendance world tour 2020 has come true it’s fucking insane, man
You mean These people
Whoa, there was a lot of fElon fellatio in the replies on that site.
This should surprise no one. The reception was poor, delivery was poor. It’s a niche market item in an existing niche market. On top of that, the de facto spokesperson of Tesla isn’t well liked by a lot of potential buyers.
“niche market,” is a way of saying they made a bad product few want.
pickup trucks are hardly a niche product especially in the us
I don’t think I’d call that thing a pickup. I’m not gonna run to the farm and pick up a 1000lb bale of hay in that thing. A Baja looks like it has more bed space.
A bad pickup truck is still just a pickup truck.
Yep, what else could you call it? It’s not a hatchback, a sedan, a convertible, a sports car, etc.
Swasticar
Incel Camino
An enormous mistake?
It’s an Ute (as the Australians et al. call it), like the old El Camino etc.
Real pickups have body-on-frame construction with cabs and beds bolted onto the chassis separately, so that the bed can be removed and replaced with a specialized/custom one if necessary.
Calling it a ute implies some degree of utility.
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Hatchbacks can fold down the rear seats to extend the cargo area. The Cybertruck fails even at that.
Yeah. A wagon.
The worst El Camino ever?
Hakencruiser
A kid’s drawing of a car come to life.
Trash.
Most pickup truck owners don’t do that either.
Maybe in the US they don’t…
And more ground clearance
It makes more sense if you start from the other side - EVs are a niche market, and an electric truck is a small subset of that.
The Cybertruck sold 38,965 units last year, vs 33,510 for the Ford F150 Lightning.
One of the things I love about my Lightning is that it doesn’t look like a fucking cybertruck
Other truck makers tend to let their vehicles fully render.
I will hand it to Tesla, iterating on the Cybertruck design must have been really fast.
Iteration 1 in play
Gotta save some polygons.
The Lightning really is a nice looking truck.
The trapezoid Minecraft
CybertruckDeplorian— not so much…
Deplorian
I’ll be borrowing that one.
See also:
- wank panzer
- swasticar
- incel camino
Hey, that is a very hurtful thing to say about Minecraft. Please don’t compare it to that rolling dumpster fire
Deplorian… Made me snarf. My previous go to, overheard a while back, Incel Camino.
“Wankpanzer” is the one I’ve been going with.
😂 oh I like that! Good trade.
I’m not a Ford guy, but they do look pretty good.
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They shipped 39k cybertrucks for backlogged preorders that were based on a completely different description of what the truck would be.
Well yeah, but to be fair, they were lying.
Which is mind boggling, as the Lightning seems like a good, attractive vehicle, while the cybertruck seems like a pile of shit
I have no need for a truck, and I still considered getting one. The Lightning is very impressive all around.
The Lightning has also been out for a few years now, so it’s not the “new” thing. Also, I feel like half of those cYbErTrUcK purchases were people trying to resell them.
Hopefully these people get double-fucked. Moreso because they bought a swasticar from President Musk, but also because fuckyou to people who buy stuff just to resell at a higher margin.
I’m assuming the electric f150 has greater than 1 wheel drive?
Actually most vehicles are only 1-wheel drive unless they have a locker or similar installed (4x4 would be “2-wheel drive”).
Which vehicles have that? The base cybertruck has two motors for AWD.
It’s just to make OP feel smart. A single driven axle with an open differential with one wheel on more slippery ground than the other would result in only one wheel transferring torque.
Regular F150s have single wheel drive.
Can you explain? I’m not much into cars, but that doesn’t sound right to me. A quick Google suggests maybe you’re referring to the open differential, but I don’t think that means that only one wheel is powered.
They’re referring to an open differential. If you look at an open differential vehicle doing a burnout you will see that only one wheel is spinning.
I guess making a search online is the one thing slightly more difficult than making an assumption.
You gotta love these comments in forums. Like the whole point of being here is to discuss and people like this are literally telling you to leave the site. Very useful, much contributions.
OK, but what the hell was that person on about though?
To be fair, it’s valid to cater to niche markets.
However, that wasn’t what Tesla was aiming to do.
cybertruck is barely even a truck at all. its a truck shaped car for rich assholes to look rugged.
Try and fail to look rugged. They just end up looking like the douche nozzles they are.
They’re a comedy show on wheels. They always lighten my mood when I see them. I’m a little smug too, knowing if I had that much money to blow, it wouldn’t be on one of those.
Which is a very niche market. I’m not part of that market.
pickup trucks are hardly a niche product
Tanks camouflaged as pickup trucks are.
When did they start importing the Hilux?
And the cybertruck is hardly a pickup truck. What were you saying?
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Just wait till DOGE start requiring it for all government vehicles
“What?! You all wanted electric mail trucks, so here they are!”
(Sadly / Probably)
oh shit…
With all the trailer capacity available it will be able to carry one, maybe even TWO packages!
I’d like a GTA singleplayer cheat making every police car a cybertruck that can’t pursue you for long and would rather lose control and do a barrel roll than even get close to you.
“Isn’t well liked” is quite the understatement. “Despised” is more like it. I actually like the way the cybertruck looks, I think the technology is interesting, and if I really wanted to, I could probably afford one.
I wouldn’t drive one if it was given to me for free. I’d rather take a taxi every day than drive a public display of support for the treasonous fascist manchild that owns the company.
Tesla’s second biggest problem is their shit standards and quality control. Their first biggest problem is their shit corporate leadership.
I swear that every time I saw one, the people around would point and laugh. 100k+ to drive a car that is always broken and mocked by everyone is quite expensive.
Hey! I heard you could get one of these fasc-mobiles for $75k, now!
/s
I mean off the bat that’s one of the worse combinations of people/product I’ve ever seen. I mean off the bat electric car’s target market is people that want to think they are doing something better for the environment.
So… then the guy making them goes loudly in the “fuck the environment” group.
To top it off though, Cybertruck itself always confuses me. I don’t know who the target audience is. The original tesla’s I could look at and think, that’s a cool car, if they ever came down in price I’d be interested.
Cybertruck you look at and think… What a car would look like if you scaled up games from the 32/64 bit console era and made them HD without increasing the polygon count.
My problem with Tesla is that so many things seem half-unthinking, half-finished or half-assed:
Unthinking: I know! I’ll put a ledge in from of the headlights, so snow can pile up while I’m driving!
Unfinished: all the seam mismatches and eternally unfinished-but-really-close! full self-driving (it ain’t gonna happen).
Half-assed: that recall they had to do because sometimes the latch doesn’t catch properly and the hood flies open when you’re driving and blocks your view. Tesla’s solution isn’t to fix or replace the hood latch so this doesn’t happen; they push a software up that monitors the hood latch and pops up a warning, telling you to pull over and check the hood latch. Because apparently fixing the issue that their poor design (see #1) and bad implementation (see #2) doesn’t warrant an actual fix, they’re just going to fob the risk , the cost and the work off to the customer.
I like the theory that Tesla had a long term roadmap before Elon scooped it up, and that he wasn’t able to do too much to disrupt that in the early years because he was focused on LARPing as Tony Stark on the Internet, and the team that developed around him to insulate the company from him were reasonably good at their jobs. But even the best can only hold back so few bad ideas while keeping up the illusion, and the result has been gradually diminishing amount of ass.
Until that roadmap ran out, and/or Elon stopped being distracted, resulting in them designing and building the Elon.
eternally unfinished-but-really-close! full self-driving
Promised by next year since 2013
The target audience is monied tech bro millenials who really wanted a warthog out of Halo.
The problem is that the overlap between tech bros and nazi lovers is definitely not 100%, probably not even 10%.
The problem is that the overlap between tech bros and nazi lovers is definitely not 100%, probably not even 10%.
Dont be so sure about that ratio. Plently of “got mine, im all bootstraps” tech bros. Id put the number at about 70/30% against nazis, but no better.
If they wanted a Warthog, they should have gotten a Jeep.
Or built one. There are at least three fully functioning Warthogs out there, I think. I’ve seen the one at Weta.
We’re not all buying EVs for the environment. I bought an EV because I think the car is cool and it’s really enjoyable to drive. It’s nice that the “gas” is also significantly cheaper, but that wasn’t high on my list of reasons to get the thing, either.
The EV owners I’ve talked to didn’t buy them for the environment, either, but I haven’t talked to any Leaf owners or anything. Maybe they’re more environmentally conscious. It being better for the environment long term is definitely nice, and I hope progress continues on batteries made with less toxic components.
Thankfully, I did not buy a Tesla and they were never on my list of options because of Elon. So he definitely alienated a customer due to him being an awful human being. I also won’t use any of their charging stations, since I don’t want them to profit off of me.
You could say we bought our Teslas “for the environment” in a way, though a bit roundabout. When we bought them (2018), it was after having previously leasing a Leaf which had shit mileage and poor performance over 40mph. We wanted to signal to the industry with our dollars that we wanted the EV movement to succeed. Because apparently money is the only thing they listen to. We knew full well that EVs were only a step toward a greener future or whatever but we wanted the industry to take that step and understand that being environmentally friendlier was important.
Plus the initial sales were to people who had already committed to preorders at a lower price for a truck that was hyped up to be far better than the end result.
Cybertrucks are basically No Man’s Sky but without the possibility of being good in a half decade.
Cybertrucks are basically No Man’s Sky but without the possibility of being good in a half decade.
Dag, yo. 🔥
Isn’t well liked…. Is a Nazi.
Let’s not forget the quality. Also poor.
Plus it looks stupid, like what my drawings of a car looked like at 5 years old
It is jaw dropping that only 40,000 of their one million+ reservations actually turned into sales. Thats 4% conversion!
Also, trucks are not a niche market. And there is pretty minimal overlap between the kind of douche who wants one of these and people who object to Musk’s behavior. It’s designed for his cult, especially.
Nazi truck.
Apparently Elon hates it when you call them swasticars, so definitely do not do that.
*SwastiKKKar
I’m not sure why, but every time I see one I think of a giant tick that has guzzled way too much blood and is about to explode.
I can understand why Nazis like it, given the truck’s habit of trapping you inside as it engulfs you in flames.
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Every time a Tesla burns a devil gets it’s horns.
Innocent people are being killed. Not really something to celebrate.
They bought a cybertruck. Are they really innocent?
Or they know someone who bought a cyber truck. Passengers who accepted a ride. Children or family members who have no control over what the buyer does. Be realistic
“People deserve to die for buying the wrong car. I am the good guy in this scenario.”
Wankpanzer
Apartheidsemi
Fashcan?
The best thing they could do for their sales is get rid of all ties to Elon Musk.
And get real professionals to design and build future models.
Also have anyone who understands basic car design point out why shit like door opening buttons are a terrible idea in emergencies. Or why requiring the doors to lock during a software update is stupid. Or why putting electronics not designed for extreme heat is terrible. Or that trying to use cameras in bad weather isn’t any better than human eyes…
Now, the origin of all those terrible ideas will be running the government.
I’m sure people pointed out all of those things and were overruled by the Nazi manchild in charge.
It’s all 5d chess technology that us plebs would never understand, what with our preference for simple, maintainable shit.
Just ordinary professionals will do nicely.
Or even better, get Olivier Boulet (of Mitsubishi infamy) to do their future designs so we can put the company out of its misery.
I definitely would’ve considered Tesla as my first EV but as of now they’re dead to me. If he was completely gone then that actually becomes a selling point for me.
Instead they did the opposite and gave him the biggest bonus in world history.
As the article title states, unlike Elon Musk, Tesla pulls out.
While true this still won’t make the Cyberdrumpf meet EU regulations. You can’t make it street legal here.
They’ve gone a long way on flash and sex appeal but I think a little straightforward practical value would help them a lot. The market is awash in good competition now so their novelty effect is gone. And the sex appeal has ended for everyone except for 40k cyberdouches.
I remember posting about how a guy with a cybertruck would be an immediate no go for me and I was told by a guy I was being too judgy lol
It’s a solid real world filter.
This is definitely more acceptable than “no social media” being a red flag. Got that one before lol
No social media is a green flag IMO.
You’re literally using social media right now.
Edit: Downvote me all you want, but the fact of the matter is that Lemmy is social media. There’s media on here, and we discuss it in a social setting. Literally the definition of “social media”.
Anonymous social media like this is not what people think of when someone says “social media”.
Pseudonymous, not anonymous. It’s a little difference, but one that can determine whether you land behind bars/dead/doxxed.
All social media can be anonymous if you want it to be ;)
This is more akin to forums of old and less like your facebooks, snaps, etc
I like the term that was applied to reddit, antisocial media.
Yes, if you’re too young to remember what a forum is, i guess you can call it social media
Forums are social media
And pee is basically just water
No not the same. Forums didn’t revolve around media, they revolved around discussions.
And I’m 37, thankyouverymuch
Both can be true. I’m reducing my usage of the REALLY BAD social media and trying to make THIS social media better.
Well, ackshually ☝️🧐
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I give the gift of a free bird to any I pass on the street.
Are you Lynyrd Skynyrd?
I did go to high school in Alabama, and know somebody from Muscle Shoals …
Is no social media a red flag?
I’ve heard it mentioned, but I assume the people who believe it are people who are on Instagram all day
To a lot of people yes, but I think they’re more worried there’s nothing that proves you’re a real person, if that makes sense.
I see it as a liability more than anything. Your data is forever.
Not really, but since we live in a world where most people are happily sharing their lives online it’s easy to imagine how not using social media might make people think you have something to hide and, therefore, can’t be trusted.
Few it fewer people are actually using Facebook and similar to share their lives because it just feels really intrusive.
Mostly because how much advertising is now showed down your throats.
If they want to know more about me I can share my camera feed but it’s like 98% cat photos.
Imagine a cyber truck bro listening to Joe Rogan in that thing. How does that not make every woman in sight instantly aroused?? /s
My panties are soaked! I’m also a pudgy middle-age dude.
You can buy incontinence sheets at the pharmacy, y’know?
If they’re not branded by right-wing personality I’m not interested.
:(
Being honest, if I heard about a woman that has cybertruck red flags (assuming you’re cis/het), that’s genuinely more attractive to me.
This is valid just on taste alone. The thing was ugly even before Elon started his descent into madness.
Rich enough to own a cyber truck, but not bright enough not to own a cyber truck. Yeah it’s what they “call look at me” energy.
Politics notwithstanding people like that are just tiring to be around.
All they had to do was build a solid, reliable truck, and not be fascist. Instead they build a poorly glued together piece of shit and sieg heil. I fucking hate this timeline.
Who would have thought the preorders all dried up when they advertised it at $39,900 but launched it at $60,990.
The Swasticar!
I’m betting high odds he will force the federal government to buy them under the guise of a green EV transition. With trump’s full blessing, of course.
Is this the one they let musk design? Feels like a Simpsons episode…
So… how long before the federal government buys up a couple million of these things…?
I wish journalist would stop calling this PS 1 Pontiac Aztek “futuristic”; it just highlights how shitty our future is going to be.
I mean it would fit well in Robocop or The Running man so I guess it counts
I’m thinking more omikron the nomad soul lmao.
Both shitty visions of the future. Well the movie for Running Man took place 6-8 years ago, and the book takes place this year which could count as “future” since we’re only in February.
So things are going to go downhill real fast, is what you’re saying
It would certainly fit this version of Robocop.
That’s retro-futuristic, a very different thing.
Ironically, the Aztek is way better, despite its age…
