Something big is happening, as Reddit seems to have purged literally every NSFW sub they know. Reason is always “unmoderated” despite some of the banned subreddits being fully moderated.


Edit: seems to have been a bug in automation (thanks @lefty7283@lemmy.world):

https://old.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/1ii67mt/_/mb3fewv

It’s still a good reminder on how quickly a community (or communities) thousands of people enjoy and in some cases rely upon can disappear.

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    r/drugs has been banned?? That was one of my favorite place on Reddit back in the days :(I haven’t found a community for that here :(

    (Edit: Drug Reddit was amaziiing, especially r/shrooms r/trees r/dxm | can’t really start a community because I’m not regular enough in this area, I guess that’s a good thing)

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      Same, when I was a teenager it was Erowid for all my questions, then r/drugs in college. I also loved r/tooktoomuch, which had the best life lessons to offer.

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        I learned all the thing that kept me safe on there too; and the life story were interesting and also the trip reports and experiment!

        This was something I couldn’t get IRL until a long time, and still, is not very active today (my friends and I are all busy we can’t really experiment !! Maybe next time we see each other)

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          Erowid is still good, though I wish there was a little more info about current operations and projects outside of maintaining the experience report database. As far as I can tell, both Erowid Monthly and Erowid Extracts are dead, Ask Erowid is dead, DrugsData is not currently receiving samples, etc.

          There’s reason to play some stuff close to the chest, obviously, but there used to be more activity than just the experience database, and it’s sad to see the other functions languish. But as a repository of drug information it’s still pretty great.

          A newer good harm reduction/info site is tripsit.me, which also has a trip sit via chat service. Can’t speak to the quality of the chat service, over something like the Fireside Project which has been around for a while now, but the infosheets on tripsit are pretty good.

          Edit: Ugh, going through the other Erowid sections again…beginning to think I need to step up and see if they want more volunteers. Lots of dead links where Wayback can probably help a ton, the Character vault can probably be expanded quite a bit, etc. But this all might just be the focus moving on a bit. I just wanted to see Ralph Metzner’s blog, since you hear so much about Tim Leary and Ram Dass but Metzner was right there with 'em.

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        havent heard of ‘Erowid’ in a minute. Great memories back then, simpler times

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    Reddit is preparing to surrender to somebody who does not want NSFW content on their site in an attempt to appease advertisers. Possibly Musk.

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      Could be going for IPO finally.

      Edit: didn’t realize it already happened, I haven’t been on Reddit in a long while.

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      The anti-porn conservatives have always been about controlling women.

      That woman who founded OnlyFans driving around in 10 different Lamborghinis, that’s their worst fucking nightmare.

      Before that, it was that one lady whose husband died and then she discovered massive oil reserves under her land.

      That kind of stuff is an existential threat to the patriarchy, which conservative control freaks must preserve at any cost.

      They cannot allow women to become self-sufficient and thereby self-determinative. Otherwise, who will take care of the men, and raise the men’s babies?

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        Literally why witch hunts existed. It was just a way for authorities to expropriate the wealth of some random dowager who won’t remarry (and therefore automatically cede all property to her new husband).

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        Also, frankly, I think sexual repression is just a HUGE part of the control mechanisms these people employ. Basically, “joy” is seen as a “sin” because there should “only be joy in God” or some stupid bull shit. You are supposed to take bride in being as missrable as possible so in the afterlife you will get eternal joy or whatever.

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      That’s what it looks like. There are a lot of NSFW subs that didn’t get banned, and some that got banned that weren’t NSFW like /r/narcissisticabuse. All marked as for “being unmoderated”. If they were actually banning NSFW subs, you’d think they’d say so.

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    No porn = more horny people = more births

    No abortion = more births

    The logic driving US legislation everyone, it’s not so much “protect the children” thinking as “make the children have children” thinking.

    Honestly, they’ve guaranteed that the US therapy industry is going to have patients for decades to come!

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      No abortions can equal less births. Women aren’t going to want to take the risk of getting pregnant if there isn’t a safety net if things go wrong.

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        You might want to crack a sex education reader with special attention to possibilities of error.

        Unfortunately, young and uninformed people will keep falling in love and getting tingly about it.

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      As with anything thiose Nazi does if therapy still exist when they are done with the health sector it will be to make sure the child are well brainwashed after the education camp ( or whatever will replace education in most red state )

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    Couldn’t have happened to a scummier hive of villainy. I wil unironically applaud every bad thing that happens to the site.

    Nothing of value lost, there are uncountable alternatives.

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    Hmm, maybe they reverted? Everything still seems accessible right now

    Edit: the ones on the screen seem down but there are definitely still some nsfw subreddits still open. Either the purgening has just begun or those fit some kind of criteria for a ban.

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      Looks like maybe they’re starting with the main ones‽

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      As a quick reminder: don’t expect them to handle your load (lol) for free. If you are a gooner/goonette with some income, leave a tip for the server costs and consider volunteering for mod duties if you have time and some internet social skills. If you value your nsfw communities, they don’t exist without work, like any other community.

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    r/transgender_surgeries wasn’t porn. It was a community outlet for results so people could understand what to expect. Queer folk always get swept up with porn, cishet only see us as a “kink” and assume our existence is entirely sexual.

    It’s fucking infuriating.

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      Queer folk always get swept up with porn, cishet only see us as a “kink” and assume our existence is entirely sexual.

      This is the whole point of these porn bans is to remove queer people from the internet. The porn cover just allows it to happen. So whenever you see anything about porn bans think queer ban first and then some porn removal that comes right back

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        it’s telling that they target trans content; but leave gay content alone.

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          They knew that their attacks on gay people weren’t as popular as they once were so they are taking the exact same tactics and language and moving it towards Trans people. It both predictable and sad at the same time

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            it’s sad, but expected from conservatives; the real sadness is an “ally” like biden who didn’t enact the equal rights amendment that would help protect trans people from the legal version of this shit and then very publicly pretended that he did.

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          They lost the chance to scapegoat the gays after they failed to in the 80s during the AIDS epidemic

          Now there’s too many gay people in the population to keep them down.

          Once we get over this hurdle the same will be true for Trans people.

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        The old ass fascists trying to hold together their plutocracy suppress anything that goes against their patriarchal values.

        Even looking at it as a fetish, trans porn has been skyrocketing in popularity

        https://www.pornhub.com/insights/transgender-searches

        And this terrifies right wingers

        The current patriarchy sees non-binary people as a threat to their heirachies. If the line between man and woman gets blurred then we start questioning why we aren’t all actually equal, and that leads to us removing them from power.

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          Really anything that shows or hints that any part of their “natural” order is something created. Gender is a big one but anything

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      I’m currently discussing with people about mirroring it somewhere on lemmy, but there is also Transbucket which already exists as its own independent website.

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      It’s a shame. I’m not trans. I’m a cis male and I have no desire to be female. But I live in a very trans friendly community and as such I have many trans friends and they need outlets. I joined a meetup group which inadvertly became a trans safe space (original topic was anime) and many trans people just joined as it was the one space where they weren’t judged. We just did it in the way of anime, like their only safe space is something not trans releated and this is despite living in a friendly city. I will be an ally to all my trans friends and support them in this time of need.

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      Well it is genitals but the purpose is entirely different. I don’t agree with it but I can at least see the logic.

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        By that “logic”, all obgyn’s are sex workers. It’s shit justification for bigotry and shouldn’t be given any credence whatsoever.

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          Not sure I follow the logic since an OBGYNs job is not get you off.

          If they are banning NSFW images, then that’s why.

          Like I said the purpose of those images in the trans subreddits serve an educational purpose. But you probably shouldn’t be viewing it at work. If they are banning nudity, that’s nudity.

          Like I said I don’t agree with the ban hammer, but it’s consistent. However, in my opinion, all it should be left as is regardless of the purpose.

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            since an OBGYNs job is not get you off.

            Neither is trans people posting the results of surgery.

            This entire line of thinking is contradictory, nonsensical and unhelpful.

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              I was replying to comment the “OBGYNs are sex workers” comment. Tran surgery pics are very useful and not porn.

              If you can’t follow that logic I’m not sure what to do.

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      I mean, ffs. #notallcishet? I don’t get how people who are being oppressed and all lumped together under one description (which you all definitely are) can be so nonchalant throwing around broad strokes like that.

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        Lol was that hashtag ironic? You know “not all men” is frequently referenced as a critique about men who can’t hear criticism of gender equality because “not all men”? As a cishet dude: calm down, their point is valid and your reaction is cringe

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        You got a problem with trans people? No? Then it wasn’t talking about you. Christ, is that hard to understand?

        When a group of people makes an “us vs them” against a minority, it forces the minority to use that language back. As a cishet person, your identity is being used as a weapon to harm trans people regardless if you’re doing anything. Ignorance of the minorities plight can be weaponized to do more harm and that ignorance can be shielded through appeals to normalcy and tradition.

        When you respond to that language with “not all cishet people” you signal that your support is contingent on you not losing anything (your ignorance is one of the things you can lose). Which can and will be used to weaponize more harm against the minority group.

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          I realize that I’m outnumbered here and that this is apparently an unpopular opinion, but nobody is forcing anyone to say “all x are y” because someone else is (I agree, in bad faith) doing the same thing.

          You’ve both been quite rude to me and I’m done engaging you, but that’s the full extent of my point and I’m unconvinced by your rebuttals.

          Ciao now 🫡

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            nobody is forcing anyone to say “all x are y” because someone else is (I agree, in bad faith) doing the same thing.

            Legal documents are being made to say that all x (transgender individuals) are now y (the wrong gender) because someone else (the government) is making them say so.

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              I’ve never disputed that. I don’t know how reiterating that fact in any way supports the idea that it “forces” transgender individuals to use the same language to describe “all cishet” people.

              That was my point. It always has been.

              If I were visually impaired and protesting unsuccessfully for better accessibility in my work environments, I can’t imagine why I would make a claim in any capacity including the language “all sighted people”.

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      Man, like I’ll welcome new people, but I don’t want all flooded with porn. I already had to block a bunch of communities/ profiles, and I’ll have to work more to fix my feed. Having said that

      Give me your tired, your goons, Your huddled masses yearning to goon free, I guess.

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        Try jerboa, you can just block the nsfw instance instead of doing it piecemeal. Total game changer. (Some of the other apps probably have this functionality but I don’t know which.)

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            I didn’t want other NSFW stuff blocked, just porn. When I was originally signing up it seemed like NSFW was being treated as an all or nothing for most instances. Idk if it’s changed or if I just needed to look harder.

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              What’s an example of NSFW that you want to see that is banned by instances banning porn? Which instances are you referring to?

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                Idk it was like 2 years ago. I just remember looking through fediverse guides and instances were labeled as either allowing NSFW content or not, no nuance. I didn’t dig into whether the specific instances were defederated from lemmynsfw nor did I even know to look for that at the time.

                There’s not that much NSFW stuff that isn’t porn but I come across it occasionally. Usually jokes, sometimes people will also be very cautious and mark shit that isn’t really. I prefer to be largely unconstrained with what comes across my feed, just don’t care for the random puss intermingled.

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          I do this in sync as it is. Just saying if a shitload of reddit refugees come here and my feed becomes 90% full of porn, I’ll likely have a few more to ban.

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            As far as I can tell, you can only block communities in sync which is why you’re having to do it one by one. Jerboa you can just block the whole NSFW instance, one and done.

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              I can block instances. It’s really not that big of a deal. Just pointing out that an influx like that, I’m sure would bring more instances, and more stuff I wouldn’t want in my feed I’d have to block.

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      As far as I remember they weren’t monetizing NSFW subs, so I guess their reasoning is that banning them reduces server costs while not impacting their ads revenue.

      Now what will be interesting is to see how much of Reddit’s userbase was there at least partly for the porn, and how many users will leave Reddit altogether because of this move

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      I’m against the ban, but I also don’t want that gooning here. Although that’s what drives like half of the internet so maybe it’s a good thing for the fediverse.

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    This has been predicted for many years. Most were expecting it to happen before the IPO, since investors are afraid of porn.

    They had also been gradually heading down this path for a long time, making porn harder and harder (heh) to find and view.

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      Are they going to revert the changes in a few weeks when Musk loses interest? Seems like a huge loss of website traffic for some Elon virtue signaling.

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      It did happen before the IPO. It’s been happening for several years. They have not been doing mass bans all at once. They’ve been surreptitiously taking down subreddits over the years. Mostly smaller ones that woujldn’t draw much attetnion. Looks like they went for the bigger targets now.

      This isn’t a sudden change to ideologically align with the current US administration either. They have been at this for a long time.

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      It’s not only porn. Today i google-image searched a skin condition. Most results were reddit links, but i wasn’t able to open any of them without their app as the subreddits were apparently 18+!

      I wasn’t able to view any of the information as i refuse to install the app. Google should deprioritize the results that can’t be viewed in the browser.

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      It’s only a matter of time. They don’t display any ads on nsfw subreddits currently, so management likely sees these subreddits as nothing but a cost, especially because they tend to be heavily image/gif based. what they are unsure about, which is why they haven’t been purged yet, is likely how much traffic to non-nsfw subreddits nsfw subreddits drive. I think we are likely to see purges of them when/if ad money dips or plateaus and they turn their eye to minimizing operating costs.

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          I mean, one has to ask why they were setting up automated banning of these subreddits in the first place.

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            The reason for all of them was unmoderated. So it seems to me like they have/are testing a method to auto ban unmoderated subs. Not that crazy, imho.

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              Then why weren’t there loads more “unmoderated” subs of different categorize blocked?

              If it was just a glitch, I suspect that the affected subreddits would better represent a random distribution of topics than what we witnessed.

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                A glitch is when something doesn’t work as you expect it to. I don’t know why you’d suspect any kind of behaviour from a glitch. Glitches can do all kinds of crazy shit.

                To be clear, I’m speculating on what tool they may actually be working on.

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                  I’m aware of what a glitch is. What I’m saying is that they are already targeting these specific subs regardless of their moderation status. The only ‘glitch’ here was that they got caught pushing an agenda.

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              If they are really testing things like that, it’s quite worrying that they did it on the production server…

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                  I see, I assumed trans_surgeries wasn’t a nsfw sub, so I was weary of why it would be in the list with the rest.

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      😂 like that Facebook “glitch” that banned any inclusive terms and force-followed Trump on people’s profiles? Lol these fuckers

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out they’re making a ban list for all these communities, but the ‘glitch’ was that someone turned it on before whatever PR move/manufactured scandal they were going to use to justify it was ready to go.

      Or this was just a test fire to see how people would react.

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      That’s a pretty big glitch. 1. You have a nuclear button. 2. The omega thermal nuclear cluster bombs are pointed at a particular target

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      Uh huh. Like the glitch that put T_D on the front page - the entire front page.

      One of those funny coincidences that keeps happening.