Reminds me of the story about how Claude Sonnet (computer use) got bored while doing work and started looking at pictures of Yellowstone:
Our misanthropy of cubicle culture is infectious.
Humans: “I love nature.”
Also Humans: “Let’s live and work in concrete boxes stacked into the sky!”
We’re working on 7-8billion people on this tiny little rock. We all need to be living in dense urban setups. This entitlement most of us have is ridiculous. We are straight up ruining this planet with our endless suburbs and desire to own a chunk of wilderness. As if our own enjoyment and personal appreciation is a virtue worth the destruction we wreak with our presence.
Al Gore said it best, it’s an inconvenient truth.
Just because it’s the most efficient way for all of us to live doesn’t mean it’s good for us. There are too many humans for this planet to support. We need to reduce the population ethically. Stop having kids.
I agree about the population, however Im not sure living in an apartment building is unhealthy. Or at least it doesn’t have to be. I am sure endless suburbs of detached single family housing, surrounded by seas of asphalt and treated lawns is.
If the people who lived in apartment buildings automatically co-owned the building, and landlords were illegal, then I’d be OK with it. Suburbs should be illegal. Everywhere people live should look and operate like downtowns. Healthy small businesses right below attractive apartments and all beautiful architecture.
But I also don’t think people should be prevented from living in rural, even isolated areas. Some of us simply are unsuited for it. But it shouldn’t be illegal. Only extreme wealth, landlords and owning more than, say, 3 nice houses should be illegal.
I’m with ya on not being a serf in some neo-feudal hellscape we increasingly find ourselves in. Fuck paying rent to never own anything. Fuck landlords who add zero value to anything. I’m all about the denser commercial residential mash up.
But where do you draw the line? Living rurally I mean. We have a tendency to frame these things by what’s fair to the individual. I think we ought to be asking what’s fair to the earth, the eco system, what’s fair to the generations to come? One or two people hanging in the woods isn’t a problem, but there’s 8 billion of us. In my region the suburbs don’t end. They pitter out into ever less dense housing. Everyone with a car, with miles of pavement to drive them on. Innumerable leaky septic tanks, endless lawns that leak pesticides and fertilizer. And everyone feeling it’s their inalienable right to do so, a virtue to be lauded even. We’re just a fucking disaster.
I’d challenge everyone to look inward and ask what they feel entitled to, and the price in environmental degradation they’re willing to inflict on the rest of us and future generations get it.
I think that rural living should exist and so should high density city living, so long as there are no landlords. However suburbia is the big problem. Those neighborhoods should be returned to the earth.
People used to have more free time. But today we have graphics cards.
I don’t know that many people who can afford a graphics card anymore though.
I don’t think anyone has the time anymore to enjoy their graphic cards they already own.
Yes. So your boss can enjoy the view.
You on the other hand can get fucked asshole.
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That’s pretty much the synopsis of the Yellowstone tv show.
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one’s life in the face of work that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. I was crazy and could be not working. All i had to do was ask; and as soon as i did, i would no longer be crazy and would have to work more. I would be crazy to work more and sane if i didn’t, but if i was sane i had to work. If i work i was crazy and didn’t have to; but if i didn’t want to i was sane and had to.
Until 65? Good luck with that.
Yup.
Mom just retired at 70. On her feet working for society for 50 years. Now she hobbles around home with the help of a walker. She’ll spend the last 5-10 years of her life hanging out at home, with her only trips being to the doctor’s office.
Because this is all a scam to burn the lives of average people so the wealthy can live better than any kings from antiquity ever did.
And our fates will be the same, or worse, if we don’t eat these motherfuckers.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t want to live that long. Whenever the time feels right, I want to “retire” with whatever savings I might have, and ride it out until going out on my own terms. When that time feels right, I don’t know, but it’ll come.
I’m on that mixing heroin into my daily life in my 60s retirement plan. If I make it that long. To quote AJJ, “I smoke like a fucking chimney, I declare war on my body!”
I’ll punch my ticket when I’m done.
67 for most now until they increase it again or worse, and dangling the extras if you stay until 70.
Many won’t be able to go to places like this at that point, neither physically or financially, and it might even be gone due to climate. I can think of many fixes to this system, but none work because they would go against the way things work, and the machine must keep rolling.
Yeah, that nice greenery has another 15, 20 at tops.
Even in countries that aren’t so dystopian yet that people are retiring at an older age than that, it’ll sure be the case by the time us millennials and zoomers retire
Not suicidal, but if I have to work much past that I’ll consider the exit bag.
9-5? More like 8-5 at a minimum wherever I’ve been at.
9-5 is a dream.
Doing the bare minimum of responsibilities/hygiene my weekdays are 7am-630pm so once I’m settled I get maybe 2-3 hours to eat and do something fun. Assuming there isn’t anything I need to do around the house.
Also those leisure hours are “fun” while I mentally prepare for the next day’s beatings.
Saturday is a burner day to recover, Sunday is all chores and errands to get ready for the next 5 days.
It sure is grim when I type all that out.
Sounds horrible. My day is wake up at 7, have breakfast, work from 8.20 or so, stop working at 15.30 or so (depends on my energy and what I decide to do).
I sleep at 22.30 so there are lots of hours to do what I want.
This is a very typical life for IT workers where I live (western Europe, not USA).
It’s not common in the US but there are decent jobs, they are just very competitive to get and people rarely leave them aside from retirement so turnover is very slow compared to shitty places with high staff turnover. It took me several years working experience, a degree, and a bit of luck to land one. Currently working IT in the US 10-5 with on call rotation a couple times a year, good salary in low-ish cost of living area, pension, 401k, a little over a month off a year PTO plus holidays that increases with seniority, mostly reasonable people to work with and for, etc.
The secret sauce is around 10% of the workforce is union and strikes are fairly regular to protect workers rights that affect both union and non union workers.
This is about the same as my schedule, I do IT in the USA as well.
I’m in the same boat too. Honestly I don’t think this will get better. The grind never stops. I am thinking to consider moving to jobs which are at least interesting to me since I’m going to spend 70%(might be more if math done properly) of my rest of my life working, might as well it be interesting or fun to me. Idk if I can pull it off.
I feel you. I never thought I’d get out of retail management and landed a sweet operations job that pays well. The downside is it’s a small company so I do everything. I’m good at it and it’s stimulating, but I’m accountable for so many things and people that it’s been really wearing me down for the last few years, I’m at 11/10 effort almost every day.
I could find something else but it probably won’t pay as well, and likely wouldn’t be any better for my health. Doesn’t hurt to look though, right?
I just want to contribute and do good work and enjoy my life.
Don’t forget getting ready for work and commuting.
Fuck I’m so glad my country has good unions
Don’t worry, we’re working on making the earth look WAY shittier so you can work your 9-5 without worrying about missing out on anything.
This. A lot of the earth doesn’t look like this. And a lot of normal jobs are actively making it worse. Like, unfortunately you don’t need to work for Nestle to be a part of that.
I’m not blaming any minimum wage worker at Amazon or retail or in factories of course. They got no choice. We live in a system where unemployment is ultimately better for the planet than a significant portion of jobs.
Nope, your World looks like this:
Now stop dallying and get to work.
/s
Walls? What company is this?
Looks a lot like the cubes at my old company. Fun Fact, as far as I know, i was the first employee to ever build a roof for my cubical. It took them months to notice because of my out of the way location…
It’s the liminal factory.
Now back to work.
The purpose of life is to sit in a cubicle and work to destroy this for the sake of shareholder profits. It’s a very efficient system
Sacrifice more time on this planet to the global suicide machine, so you can buy toys
Ooo! I like toys
This beautiful landscape is missing a Walmart with a 600 car parking lot.
The worst part is that parking lot is probably mandatory per city regulations. We should abolish parking mandates country wide! (and you can help too, see https://parkingreform.org/)
We need mass public transportation. Buses, trains, trolleys, and walkable cities.
65???
Look at Richie McMoneybags over here living in his Socialist utopia where he doesn’t have to keep working until he keels over dead on the clock.
65? What Utopian country is that?
In Germany it’s work until you die. Boomers chill from 65. We will work well into our 70s 💅
*men work until they die.
Women don’t.
In Sweden it’s 62-65.
In Finland it’s 65-68, however retirement system is likely to collapse before my actual retirement age, so I “retired” last summer at 28.
How do you do that?
in finland you can choose not to work or do anything, and the government pays you just enough so you can eat and have a roof over your head
Both grandparents died last spring, shitty as it is, at least I don’t have to break my back at a timbermill anymore.
Hahahaha get a load of this guy. He thinks he gets to retire ahahahhahaha
Corporations have figured out how to make indentured servitude look good and reasonable with your credit card debt, taxes you can’t evade like they can, bills and healthcare “benefits” added to your permanent and relentless tab alongside meager time off so the C suites can fly on private jets, lobby against your livelihood and hope you are none the wiser bc most ppl are.