They exchanged messages just before the subreddit r/WhitePeopleofTwitter was given a temporary ban for 72 hours

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    That’s more or less why I left reddit and came to lemmy.

    This is in fact my very first post here. :)

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      That’s what every company/organization I’ve ever worked for has done. Oh, this intranet tool works okay and no one is complaining. Lets redo it in a “modern” style… (adds whitespace and truncates every meaningful text field so you have to mouseover and scroll for miles to read any of them even on a 4k display).

      I think part of why Reddit succeeded initially was because it had some very KEY strengths/advantages. I would say that the old design and the URL scheme are part of that. It fit any screen nicely from phone though 4k TV, portrait displays, whatever. It was a simple design, but extensible by custom CSS and if you knew what you wanted, you could skip straight there by typing r/ or u/ in your URL. Enough reminiscing, if old reddit is gone,I don’t know if I’ll even be able to use reddit at all for anything. New reddit is one of those interfaces, like twitter, that never really made sense or worked for me. I’m just a Lemmy guy I guess.

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        I could deal with the aesthetics if they kept the core function of old.reddit. But they didn’t. I see “trending” posts more than I see posts from subs I have joined and that’s what eventually has driven me from the site. Every time I log in, it’s whack a mole with random bot repost subs.

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    One of the most recurring things I see here is the mods are at wits end with Reddit Admins again. They’ve given up a lot of leverage in doing another blackout, but they really need to ask themselves what they have to gain being unpaid volunteers for a website clearly working against its users.

    I hope he does something stupid like buy Reddit.

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    Reddit died June 2023

    I don’t know why people are still playing with the corpse

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      I agree and haven’t returned but lemmy hasn’t hit critical mass yet… Like I don’t recall a post with over a hundred replies. Reddit used to have over a thousand on every reply on the first page.

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        I’ve never considered that a limitation.

        You only need one other person in addition to yourself, for a good discussion.

        If anything, here I’m finding I actually get replies, because my comment didn’t drown among a hundred others.

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          You only need one other person in addition to yourself for a good discussion

          I never really thought of it like this despite it being obvious. Very well said

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        How many of those thousands are actual good comments though? Last time I was there, I swear the majority of comments were from bots reposting the same comments that were in previous threads. It felt peak dead-internet.

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          Same complaint. Reddit posts with 100s or 1000s of replies were mostly a few good comments drowning in spam.

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          This is often overlooked. The conversations are great on the niche or smaller communities available on reddit and the experience is great. But for the most part, frontpage and every other sub has been taken over by repost bots or repeated jokes or politics.

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          It is worse, I was convinced I was having discussions with AI multiple times. It seemed to me that they were using some subs for AI to post content and then interact with human and AI. It is another laboratory to train their AI.

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            I used to help out in r/Botdefense

            The amount of them was ridiculous and only because the makers made another bot to report them to us (with stats), could we even keep up. That was before greedy piggy spez shut down API access and now? Ewww

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          Hard agree. I didn’t realize how awful this felt in practice and how much I genuinely missed conversations until Lemmy.

          Every popular thread I got into the habit of ignoring the top comments because I’ve seen them 1000 before. Like being forced to watch the most unfunny 90’s sitcom.

          I realize now that I would only comment on other comments— deep in comment chains.

          Coming to Lemmy felt like the difference between trying to fish a pre-packaged snack out of a vending machine (Reddit) verses sitting down for a high quality all you can eat brunch (Lemmy).

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            I think the lack of profile-wide “karma” is one benefit, so there’s not as much incentive to farm imaginary internet points and such with the same old zingers. Who knows, but hopefully not.

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                But that just means that viewing it is opt-in rather than default. Since most people probably won’t bother to install those apps, the farmed karma won’t be worth squat.

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        Might be your settings. When I flip the front page to “Active” most of the posts have hundreds of comments (though I prefer setting it to “Top Six Hours”).

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          I like “Hot” and “Top Six Hours” myself. “Scaled” and “New” aren’t bad if you’re looking for more content.

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          I also sort by top six hours but subs related to my profession or religious traditions both get too much outside noise from folks who view posts by ‘all’ and feel welcome to flood subs with comments contrary to the intent of the sub. Active moderation could help but there’s just not good moderation under most subs.

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        Like 6 good ones and a bunch of the same tired comments about poop knives, broken arms, same, this.

        Here, at least most of the answers are real human beings trying to contribute to a conversation.

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            I wish i could, but this was 2 years ago, and once the post blew up huge, OP deleted it. Some Lemmy historian may have a copy, but alas, i do not.

            Basically, OP posted a question where they said they didn’t want to poop during the upcoming weekend, and then asked how they could keep from pooping for three days. This was shortly after the Reddit API exodus.

            The comments were very helpful, reasoned, and…Nah, im just kidding, they pretty much went the way you would expect, with lots of wild speculation about why OP didn’t want to poop for three days, and lots of “helpful” suggestions about how to not poop for three days.

            Strangely though, i think the post did a lot of good, as it showed a lot of ex-redditors that Lemmy could work as a reddit replacement, and be just as goofy as the original.

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        Tbh I’ve decided I can live with less and less of this. I’ll never go back to the giant ad covered spaces. But if this doesn’t pickup or even dies, meh

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        I mean, does it really matter? Are you going to read 100 responses on a single post? I feel from Reddit that the larger communities get the shittier they get. More people = smaller intersection of common ground, which leads to dull content and repeating platitudes.

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      Same, once they violated certain principles, it was clear the site was dead. We need to do our best to build lemmy into something. It’ll take years.

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        (Rest) She never
        was this good in
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        she was sleeping
        now she’s just so
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      Because they have a monopoly on old and especially niche knowledge/communities (also new niche knowledge/communities). As much as I hate it, that’s why I personally still have to use reddit sometimes.

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      IMO, as much as I dislike Reddit, moderation is terrible here and there’s some niche subs that cannot exist here because of the lack of moderation.

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    Just goes to show how easy it is to get these people upset.

    Just call them out

    Call them often

    Call them out every day

    Never stop calling them out … you’ll know they’re listening when someone either tells you or forces you to stop.

    Nazis and authoritarians every single one of them.

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        Nah, he wanted to modify what was being said. He blocked and oppressed views he didn’t like. It was never free speech. It was always oppression.

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          I don’t even think he new the possibilities of what he can do with Twitter before he bought it. He bought it and after that he needed something to do with this shit pile and found the solution in manipulation and illegal election donation

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            I think he had to enter into agreements about content in order to get financing from the Saudis and Russians.

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        Musk bought Twitter because he fucked around trying to manipulate the stock price and accidentally made an agreement he couldn’t back out of. He tried. He failed. He was forced to buy it according to the terms he previously specified.

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          I hate my conspiricy theory minded family but if someone told me they had proof Musk expressly bought Twitter to get right wing power in America and used the buyer’s remorse stock price manipulation attempt gone south as a cover story?

          I’d believe it.

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            1. He’s dumber than you give him credit for
            2. What is the point of the supposed cover story? To cover from who, about what? He’s literally paying people to vote, again. Next to that, buying a social media to influence it almost sounds democratic.

            The reason that conspiracy theory is appealing is the same for all conspiracy theories; it’s more comforting to think the powerful have a clever masterful evil plan than the sad reality that we’re all making it up as we go, even the literal Nazis.

            Relevant ContraPoints from 4 days ago

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            Once you are there, start wondering if Trump is really that mad or if they are implementing an old Nixon plan.

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      Honestly, say something useful or keep it to yourself, OK? These lil ‘gotcha’ comments do nothing but take up space and make you feel a misplaced sense of having done something (when you’ve in fact, done nothing).

      Stuff like this comment, the mango Mussolini comments, the evil Cheeto comments, it all just fucking does nothing while still making people feel like they’re being transgressive. You’re not. It diverts energy from doing/talking about stuff that affects real change.

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      I got banned from r/comics for calling out US imperialism. Got called a Russian propagandist 😵 And now here I am :)

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        I got banned from Reddit because I made a suggestion on what should happen to a violent bull terrier dog that attacked a family member

        And they had a child

        No free speech on Reddit

        I think they have people move in to moderator roles that can choose to ban people who disagree with their opinions

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    I got a lifetime IP ban on Reddit for saying “Fuck Elon Musk all the way to hell” - so fuck Reddit, fuck DOGE, and especially fuck Elon.

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    I look at Reddit like I look at Facebook. Both are trash and have outlived their use. If you have a profile on either one, delete it or at least delete the app.

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      Reddit has been a an archive of some of the greatest collective minds of humanity. Besides the general algorithm up voting bots hogwash, there have been some really good subreddits with excellent information from learned professionals on topics. it I wish it was preserved rather than deleted. The AskHistorians is one of my favourite professional vetted and clean subreddits, lots of academic discussions there.

      But all things have a Golden Era, and then it’s enshittified and fades away. As Lemmy will be one day too.

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        Yeah, and try as we might, we haven’t been able to replicate its biggest selling point. It was unfortunately also its greatest vulnerability regarding the corporatetake over.

        It was a central location from which thousands of large, niche communities could be found.

        Lemmy is great, but the decentralized nature of it also fragments small communities and makes it hard for them to launch. I was super active of the Scuba subreddit, but on Lemmy, there are like 8 scuba communities spread across the instances, but they’re all so small there’s no activity on them, and that fragmentation makes it difficult for one to reach the necessary critical mass to become active.

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        I can likely fall into some version of a category of learned professional. IMO, it’s fine, many of us have made our migration to Lemmy. Reddit can burn.

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      Gonna hijack your comment to shill:

      https://redact.dev/

      “The only platform that allows you to automatically clean up your old posts from services like Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, Discord, and more, all in one place.”

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    Shadow banned for making a very popular post about how to make DIY Luigi Mangione prayer candles using dollar tree candles, printer and a glue stick on witches vs patriarchy

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      I just left after twenty years. I warned them about overly censoring in their research calls but I guess they didn’t want to listen

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      It always amazes me people keep on using centralised platforms like reddit.

      Sure lemmy isn’t perfect but at least if one instance goes crazy you can always switch.

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        when it was good, it was real good. Every subject I could want in one place, and I could organize it as I wish.

        Lemmy is a confusing mess and lacking in basic features compared to reddit (although there’s probably front ends I could download that would fix my complaints).

        Obviously, I’m here, so the inconvenience is an acceptable price for not being on reddit anymore.

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          I’m using the voyager app and the experience is almost 1:1 with reddit if that maybe helps you.

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            eventually, imma have to actually look into lemmy front ends or clients. I stand by the statement that I shouldn’t have to, but I’ll prolly have a better time of things if I did.

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        World is already heading that way. It’s one of the few instances that requires your “real” email address and has deleted political threads.

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        Same. I had JUST said to someone last night that I’d never been banned or even warned, though I’d said plenty stuff on the violently anti fascist end of things. A few hours later, I get a warning, though they didn’t say for which comment. Thankfully, someone told me about her!