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    Very good but can someone please invent a 4TB drive that costs less than it did five years ago?

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      I don’t know about HDDs but for SSDs they hit a very low price last September 2023, and the companies decided to cut production so the prices go up again. It worked, today SSD drives are more expensive than last year. I bet they did something similar to the HDD, but it’s only hypothetical.

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      I feel like we may have hit a temporary halt on memory getting cheaper. I have an 8TB HDD and the prices of them have remained remarkably steady for how long I have had it.

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    “For personal users, this SSD can store 11,000 90-minute 4K movies,”

    This is less useful than libraries of congress.

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    Regardless of where it’s made hopefully it brings down the price of drives for the rest of us.

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    ‘Chineese startup nobody has heard of.’

    …am… I racist for immediately thinking scam? Like… they shoved a couple thumb drives in a fancy case level of scam?

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      At this point, yeah, a bit. But it is a common racism to have right now, and the first step on the path to getting rid of it is knowing you have it.

      Plus, the headline is really leading in that direction too, the article itself makes it pretty clear that it is a real, reputable product. Their wording in the headline is technically correct, they specifically call it a company “you’ve likely never encountered” rather than “noone has heard of”, the company has already been at the forefront before and announced that they would be again in 2025, this is fulfilling that promise.

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        China has caught putting harware level vulnerabilities for decades now.

        So there’s probably backdoors in any Chinese hardware by now. But also in any western hardware.

        It’s just about who you want to send your data to.

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          Actually it is mostly the US that has been caught doing that. Not saying others don’t do it but the US is the one who is bad enough at it to get caught regularly.

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              You mean because my responses actually fit the comments I respond to unlike your low effort FUD that is phrased in such a general way that it could easily be spammed all over without attracting too much attention?

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      startup nobody has heard of

      There, now that sentence isn’t racist because that sounds like a scam without any additional details.

      But it is a startup you’ve probably never encountered, which is saying more about them not being known outside of their home country which is a bit different.

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      I would say it’s bad because the only reason low quality products exist from China is because there is a company ordering them, typically American. All of our expensive tech comes from there any you haven’t heard of most of those companies

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        Yeah but how is that not China’s fault too? Americans buy cheap products from there because China pays their employees pennies.

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          From what I understand their minimum wages aren’t bad, it’s the enforcement that sucks. Everyone buys from them because labor laws are overlooked, but if they weren’t - there’s a risk manufacturing would move away and shrink. Bit of an ouroboros. I’d say both parties are to blame, but the paying one gets more of it.

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          Imagine there’s like a super rich country where everybody gets paid at least 10x what you do. And they order crap from the company you work at.

          It’s just the way it is in the world. A new gpu costs the same in my country, but median pay is like 2-4x less. So basically imagine if a new gpu costs 3000$ instead of 1k. Obligatory nvidia f you.

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        Haha OK op thinking it was a scam is not racist, calling it “a core value in their society” is a bit racist.

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          No. It really is. Since the cultural Revolution, china has lost its manners. Gutter Oil, tofu drag, taking a whole “all you can eat” for yourself and ruining it with paper and spices for others, demanding money from a newly wed couple (originally it is that you give a few a red envelope with money. People close to you) eventhough you dont have anything to do with them, fake meat, glue instead of milk, fake tofu (its stirofome if you are lucky) and i can count more. Shooting birds with a slingshot, when in japan, carving spiritual shrines and cutting down/damaging/shaking off the cherry blossom trees

          Its so so sad.

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      No because Chinese isn’t a race its a nationality. If you used one of the races there like Han The predominate race there. than yes it would be racist. The Han are in fact often refereed to has the real Chinese. But china is made up of many races not just the one.

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        Okay bud Chinese 99.999999999% of the time refers to Han. If you ask a Chinese person they will say 中国人, Chinese. Yes Han is the proper nomenclature but no Chinese person would make this argument.

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          I guess that would depend on whether you think of the country or a race when you think china. I think of the country and not the race. bud.

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    can I put this thing in a laptop or is it made for a bigger computer like a desktop?

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          By producing everything you use in life?

          Don’t buy cheap shit you won’t get cheaply made shit.

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            You’re right. If I don’t buy cheap shit, I won’t get cheap shit. And since “made in China” is a byword for cheap shit, I try to avoid Chinese products.

            My home was made in America. My car was assembled in America, and afaik, most of the parts came from Mexico and Japan. My microwave is Japanese. My shirt is from Taiwan. My computer is made from a ton of chips, Taiwan chip fabs. My tools are all made in America. I can go on.

            Very little of what I have was made in China. Because China makes “cheap shit”. Your words, not mine.

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              You are about 20 years too late for any of this to make sense. China tech is on par with other countries now. It is still lower cost for bad reasons alot of the time, but good quality tech is readily available now. You don’t have to go very far up from the absolute cheapest unit price to get to the quality either, but of course, it’s the American way to always seek out the absolute cheapest product, quality be damned. And the absolute cheapest will often come from China, despite needing to cross an ocean.

              A “made in America” sticker also does not carry the meaning it used to 20 years ago either. You can get some of the shittiest cheap stuff “made in America”, it just won’t be the cheapest shitty stuff, despite being made locally to you, since the company still needs to make sure they are infinitely increasing profits forever…

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                The propaganda campaign for chinese goods not being scams just started this week dude, give it time and I’m sure the west will fall

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                I sincerely doubt that. And last I checked, most chip fabs were not in China. There’s a lot in South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. And there’s plenty in damn near every western country. Even the Netherlands has a few.

                You need to realize that countries other than China have industry.

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              Your phone was made in China. Most of the components were manufactured in Taiwan. Same goes for every chip in your car, and very likely for your Japanese microwave too.

              None of those chips for your computer, your phone, or your car were made in the US, and thanks to Lil Donnie’s tantrum against the CHIPS act, none of them ever will be.

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                My phone was made in Vietnam. And last I checked, Taiwan is not part of China.

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                  You cannot be that ignorant. ‘Made in X’ in a such globalized and distributed economy is nothing but a matter of tax design.

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                  Yes, they are different countries, and they will continue to be the countries that make the tech products you buy at an inflated, tariffed rate.

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              Nearly every company in the world that has an international presence uses chinese parts somewhere. And no, you racist count, made in china is not a word for cheap shit, it’s a word for made in a factory. You can’t avoid chinese products at this stage of capitalism. Your made in japan microwave? It was assembled in japan. It was made in china hence why you can get the brand less version for half price on aliexpress.

              Country labeling is a joke, wherever the final assembly takes place is where the label gets put on, specially because racists like you are too stupid to tell the difference and it sincerely hasn’t mattered since before most people were born.

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                And you are stupid for not acknowledging that people from other countries are not just useless consumers without any agency. Americans and Europeans have industry too, and very productive ones. The narrative that you can trace any product back to China is entirely wrong and reeks of tankie.

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                  The west has spent a half century outsourcing their industry to feel like they’ve done any environmental work (and to lower wages). That has affected all industries, in all western countries.

                  Ever use anything with a pcb? Congrats it was partially made in china. Any industrial electrical components? Any microelectronics for non computational work? Hell most steel fab is in china. Half the us’s packaged fruit travels through china for packaging.

                  Your owners and masters have spent a long time ruining domestic companies for the sake of profit. Don’t take that out on chinese people, take it out on your owners and masters.

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          China does everything better than the US. iPhones are made in China.

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            Yeah, like slaves! America is so bad with slaves, we gave it up 150 years ago! But China, China is rolling the slaves! China perfected slavery!

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              the US constitution specifically has a carve-out that allows using prisoners as slaves

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                So what? China has slaves galore! A veritable slave emporium! A slave for every man woman and child. That is, if women had rights in China.

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        They also decided to only scam chinese people, as it’s only available there.

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          Of the companies mentioned, only DapuStor is from mainland China from what I can tell?

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            Yes, that’s what I was reffering to. My comment was an addemdum to yours and still replying to OPs statement.

            Sorry for the confusion

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        I mean… It wouldn’t even be the first time, so 🤷‍♂️

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        Well yeah, or one managed it, and the others are just copying the size. It’s happened time and time again, how is this any different)

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          Yes, all these companies are using the same breakthrough in memory manufacturing to build similar products out of the same base memory modules. And none of the memory modules they’re using were made in the US (ooh scaaary).

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      I know reading is really hard for you, but if you do, you’d learn that this is just another company doing the same thing that the big names like Samsung and Sandisk have already done.