Don’t these holidays cost owners rather than workers, though?
I used to love working holidays as a single guy for that double pay. 🤑
No holidays means only 1x pay 👎 nevermind if you just wanted to take the day off without getting docked.
America produces way more than enough to allow everyone to live comfortably and enjoy life. But the fruits of all that extra productivity is being hoarded by a tiny portion of the population while workers are being increasingly stretched and strained to extract as much value from then as possible while paying them as least as possible.
The scarcity of wealth and the need to always work harder and longer hours to barely make it is an illusion maintained to exploit the workers.
I’ve been meaning to ask how donald trump intends to “make america great again” when it stopped being “great” shortly after he became president.
You can’t make it worse on purpose and then make it better again and say “see! I made it great again”
But i suppose he did do that with the price of eggs. So maybe thats the plan.
Oh well! Like his cognitive function, the plan is failing,
See, he thinks what’s happening IS great, so he’s winning his battle. It was never to make it great for us, it was only ever to make it great for him and his ilk. Always has been, always will be.
No one is forcing anyone to be closed on holidays! There’s no law or rule or anything!
Banks don’t have to close and work absolute shit hours because they handle money!
You wanna make more money stay open on holidays.
I work in appliance repair I get the 4th of July, thanksgiving and Christmas and new years.
It sucks. But we make more money.
My sleep deprived brain trying to process the 4th thanksgiving. Like, I only get one and this guy gets 4. I’m going to go to sleep now, you should also invest in some commas. :)
I was thinking he only took Thanksgiving off every 4 years.
Remind me how “all these businesses” can be closed if it’s really only the federal government actually takes the day off for federal holidays? Like sure some banks do as well, but most companies just stay open
Here in the real US (I.E not has make up fantasy land that he wants his user base to believe in), most companies were business as usual. As most companies only really close for Christmas and maybe Thanksgiving and Easter.
Not to mention that most Federal workers are salary, and their pay includes holidays, if he were to remove the holidays as part of the package, he would need to spend /more/ money on the workers, so it’s not like it would be a plus even in his imaginary world. This is ignoring the fact that a good portion of the federal government is also unionized. so this entire plan would fall short before it even hit the water.
Yeah I wanna say the majority of people have less holidays off these days already. Hell even paid holidays (where the business doesn’t close but you get 1.5x pay) seem to be shrinking.
And then he went golfing. True story.
And he flew using US government plane. He has spent millions on just plane rides.
Who is wasting tax payer’s money.
I hate paid time off. It’s one of the greatest crimes of modern life. I think I’ll campaign to have my union dismantled and my pay cut in half because the current model is clearly ripping off my employer.
Keep in mind that the guy complaining about PTO hasn’t worked a day in his life.
“Yeah, PTO is gay!” - Guy who works part-time at Dollar General.
FOR REAL THOUGH. Like every person I have ever heard that has complained about PTO, are people who are in positions that either don’t accrue it, or accrue it so slowly that it’s never usable, or make enough that they don’t need to ever worry about being paid vs unpaid when they take holiday.
Disclaimer: USA perspective here, I know its less bullshit in many other parts of the world.
People who don’t like PTO don’t like it because:
It is implemented in a bullshit way that is often literally illegal…
And it is implemented by idiot/cheap managers who don’t have enough actual staff hours to cover anyone being sick or taking PTO.
The bog standard norm for every kind of min wage tier job is that the manager will just unapprove your vacation that you accrued and scheduled weeks or months ago, and then oops, that also makes it so you haven’t been accumulating more PTO because you hit your max and didn’t use it in time.
Or just any manager that says you can only have a sick day, vacation, or any kind of emergency if you find a replacement for your shift.
That one is particularly amazing because… that is literally the manager’s job, to do that, not yours.
But they just gaslight you into doing their job for them, for no extrs pay, of course.
But this kind of (again, often literally illegal) bullshit is so totally common and normalized amongst these shit ass jobs, that most workers don’t even know how bullshit it is, and will rabidly attack and malign their coworkers instead of blaming their petty tyrant boss.
These people are basically, generally correct in identifying PTO as basically bullshit in these situations, but they’re too overworked and uninformed to put together that… it could be organized/executed in a not bullshit way, and it’s their boss’s (or corporate’s) fault that it isn’t.
Shitass retail managers routinely pull this bullshit and enforce a culture of blame being on all your fellow workers, and will go out of their way to intentionally stoke interpersonal drama amongst coworkers… it is very, very rare to find a low level franchise manager or small business owner who does not do this.
Yeah, and unfortunately, like you said, that entire practice is fully illegal in the states. However, most employees are unwilling to report it and then file the evidence of why it was done. Because while there is no mandatory vacation time in the US, if you are provided It as a benefit, it must be something that you can use. And if they are regularly denying your PTO because they don’t have the people to be able to cover it, then they are denying you a benefit which they are legally obligated to provide since they offered it as part of your benefits.
The amount of times that people just decide, oh well it’s only PTO. It’s no biggie. I don’t want to rock the boat. It’s insane. Like my mom lost over 600 hours of PTO because the business closed up and she didn’t fight that they needed to pay it. She doesn’t put two and two together that she’s overall getting paid less because she has the benefit of having that PTO. So if they were to not offer the PTO, they are just paying less.
Your PTO, if offered, is part of your benefits package, meaning that it’s part of your hourly wage calculation. So if you are given PTO and then not being allowed to use it, you are voluntarily being given a demotion.
… and this is why non corrupt unions need to exist.
A single person likely can’t afford the legal costs or even just simply the time and headache of pursuing justice, and there is just a massive ass backward culture in the US of it being rude to discuss money and finances with basically anyone…
Get the masses fighting with each other, distrustful of each other, so they don’t rally against the real, common enemy.
Oldest tactic in the book, divide and conquer, but you’d have to undo over a century of brainwashing that has now just become a cultural norm amongst morons who think one day they’ll be able to be the asshole boss.
Or, even just that if they acquiesce to every absurd demand and insult, they’ll be seen as a reliable employee. The reality is that none of that matters, we are all just homogenous human capital to them, especially so at such unspecialized, entry level retail jobs.
I work nights from home, so I hardly ever need to take PTO. Kinda nice at the end of the year though when I typically take November and December off to burn the PTO I can’t carry over into the new year (limited to 40 hours).
We used to do this at work. But it would turn out the company basically shut down after thanksgiving because so few people actually took vacation thru out the year.
Now we are on “permissive time off” which means there is no set amount you can take or really… have to take. So in general, people just work more and are pissed off about it
Shhh, don’t tell my company!
I actually have coworkers who were complaining about a day off, and saying “everybody’s lazy, nobody wants to work anymore”. Take the day off, and shut up!
How old are they? I feel like old people have nothing other than their jobs. They never had many hobbies and they never had to raise their kids.
I find its more often they need those hours to afford to live. Sometimes due to poor life choices like owning 5 dirtbikes that don’t run and buying a 6th, but often its just due to how unfair the economy is to low income families.
You mean Americans don’t get paid on holidays?
Sometimes they get paid more if they do come in, typically time and a half, so they feel like they are missing out if they don’t. Sometimes is based on if they are full time or not. The same rhetoric is true for just regular weekends, my boss considers anyone who works less than 6 days a week unmotivated and lazy.
💀 so you are treated like the medieval serf
Thats very job dependent. Does the salesman in the UK make money if they dont make a sale? Does the construction worker make money if they didn’t build anything? The salaried folks sure get paid in the holidays.
They’re over 30, but so am I! 😭
Tell those coworkers to pick up the slack and work on their day-off. Take the off time for you and others so the aggravted workers feel good and pat their backs.
I’m a teacher, so any work they do doesn’t help me, lol
Also we should bring back prima nocta for the holy job creators, and really just bring back slavery. I mean, people can’t afford their own homes and such anyway, imagine how much more EFFECIENT it would be if we could cut through the red tape and get similar results.
-Republicans, unironically^
Slavery never went away, it’s just slightly more regulated now.
We still have traditional slavery in prisons.
Yup, 13 amendment clearly allows it.
What a fucking moron along with all his voters
They need that tax revenue to make up for all the tax cuts for the wealthy.
It’s likely he doesn’t actually believe it, but instead he’s starting a disinformation campaign so that he can let his lackeys start to start doing some illegal shit because it will benefit him.
Nah, he is just that stupid. Doesn’t prevent his lackeys from using the distraction, of course, but he’s just that dumb.
I don’t mean to imply he’s not stupid. You gotta be really fucking dumb to say that at all. I just think he doesn’t care what he says, because the content of what he says is not important. It’s more of a method of controlling the conversation.
Even “controlling the conversation” is too generous. He wants attention and is addicted to social media, and since he’s so dumb half of what he says ends up being controversial. Which his base loves.
“the workers don’t want it”
The fuck we don’t
Imagine being this guy and trying to speak for the working class
And having legal adults stop and think, “Hmm, maybe this day off thing IS kinda woke.”
Fellas, is it woke to like holidays?
All he has to do is to climb on a truck once and half of the country will believe he is a regular Joe. Critical thinking has left the building.
That’s one of the fundamental strategies from the trump playbook: just claim the people want something and if it’s repeated loud and often enough, people will start to believe it. Hopefully not for something as egregious as this, but it has worked in the past.
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I’d love a few floating “celebrate your bullshit when you choose” days instead.
…i’ve worked at a couple of places which offered a floating holiday in lieu of - i think it was thanksgiving friday?..i’ve also worked a few places which only do six: new year, memorial, independence, labor, thanksgiving day only, and christmas…
…most hourly places i’ve worked don’t do any paid holidays; if they’re closed you just don’t get paid…
Not from US, but I’d love to see mine and other multicultural countries have a box to tick when you get a job for what set of cultural holidays you want. No change forms those who celebrate Christmas and Easter (either religiously or traditional cultural reasons), and gives other cultures a chance to enjoy their holidays.
Cadlillac agrees with Trump. Slave labour is what makes America great and the slaves love it apparently.
I doubt he cares about holidays at all, but he very much cares about removing a holiday that is specifically relevant to not white people.
I was taking with a family member yesterday and said I’d be shocked if Juneteenth is still a holiday next year.
I doubt he notices a holiday TBH, it’s just the same as the previous day.
I’m sure the racist ghouls around him were complaining about Juneteenth.
yea, which is the only real reason he posted about it. It’s just a normal day for him, but he realized he can capitalize on it and make it a PR stunt like always
As a Dane, I have always been fucking shocked at the slave-like working conditions Americans work under. They barely get any time off as it is. What do you mean too many holidays?
The worst part is… If you’ve ever had the pleasure of working with an American company you’ll notice just how unproductive they are.
Obviously the two are closely connected, but it’s always fascinating to me
So true. True efficiency can only be achieved when human labour is finite. Look at the small countries of norther europe. /my first comment on lemmee :D
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Yeah there’s that myth that if you make people work more hours more work will be done. It all makes sense on the spreadsheet!
Reality is the workers are human, humans get tired and you aren’t getting more work out of anyone by making them work more hours. You’re just making someone be at a place longer because you can.
Its basic math. A woman needs 9 months for a pregnancy, surely two women would only need 4.5 months.
The spreadsheet confirms what you just said. Adding it to the corporate policy manual now.
Also note that a pregnant woman has two brains, so they can work twice as fast!
The problem is that in Germany, our Chancellor is currently on the same trip saying that ‘the people don’t work enough’ even though most people (who have a full time job) already work about 40 hours and many woman would like to work more but can’t because there are not enough daycare centres and retirement homes.
My wife worked for Siemens-Gamesa for a long time, and German managers were always surprised how the Danes would just straight up decline meetings after 16 and leave early if they had to pick up kids.
They didn’t worry about that at all, of course, because their wives generally didn’t work full time.
That’s what they get when you don’t fight for your rights.
Look at it now, semi-fascist for half a year and they’re still basically singing Kumbaya.
They get what they deserve.
We have the least mandated PTO in the developed world and a good portion of the underdeveloped world.
Our federal holidays aren’t even days off for most people. Lol
My opinion of him can’t be lower but man I keep realizing how fucking stupid his supporters are with every one of his asinine comments.
Yeah I called Juneteenth getting axed over a month ago and one of my co-workers chimed in that Juneteenth was a Trump holiday. It isn’t, it was signed into law by Biden his first year in office. Trump lied about it while campaigning.
Yeah I’ll be shocked if it still exists next year. He’ll call it “woke DEI” and his bitches in congress will scramble to be on the wrong side of history yet again.
One of the country with the least amount of paid vacation in the world. And that’s the hill he decides to climb on. He excels at making himself look increasingly moronic.
The only reason they don’t have a lower amount of mandatory paid vacation is because it is impossible to go below 0.
Don’t give them ideas.
And the fact he posted this on Juneteenth is just coincidence, right?
“The workers don’t want it!”
Some people said basically the exact same thing about slaves. That they liked being slaves.
He says on the holiday dedicated to the freeing of the slaves. It’s no coincidence this the one he complains about.
