Impressive, I guess, but how many of those 2 million posts have a single comment? If 90% of these are just bots reposting things from Reddit with no further engagement…
The content will bring in users. I try to comment on interesting topics to help drive engagement.
This is my thoughts as well. I’ve noticed that once one or two people express interest in a post, it tends to get much more traffic
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The world could use more random ass-comments
I really just prefer genuine content personally. We don’t need to astroturf the site.
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You don’t understand how my comment is related to yours?
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I used to lurk like crazy on reddit. I had a nearly 12 year old account that mainly had a few comments here and there months apart, and only a few posts but ever since moving to Lemmy I’ve found myself actually posting relatively frequently to help build some of the smaller communities I’m in that have also migrated.
Keep it up. I wish people would bring themself to comment so they count as active users.
I’m exactly the same. I feel like the opportunity to have a productive conversation on Lemmy is a lot higher. There are fewer of us right now but we are the motivated minority kicking Reddit to the curb for its terrible actions and we want to see Lemmy thrive.
I still check Reddit every couple days on my laptop. I don’t think they maintained a majority of their users. Engagement is way down. Most of the posts on my front page are barely hitting 2000 updoots, compared to well over 10,000 prior to July 1
(post comment edit - if you put things inside < > as your entire post, Lemmy will eat it. Cool>
Only if the content is organic. Look at !photoshopbattles@lemmy.world . Full of bot posts from reddit with 0 comments. Even if one of them gets a comment, it would get drowned out by the subsequent bot posts. Blindly filling a community with bot posts would eventually make people unsub from it.
I’m sure those bots are well intended, but I would rather not see bots just copying posts from reddit blindly. When you sort all by new, it’s just a swamp of bot posts.
Edit: So I checked to verify my claim and most are from @bot@lemmit.online iirc and you can just block that account to stop seeing all the automated posts from reddit
Ongoing discussion—i.e., comments replying to other comments, not just posts—drives engagement as much as content. If the post-to-comment ratio is too high, active commenters are less likely to encounter each other in the sea of automated posts.
It depends on the content.
Some of content really depends on OP being in the comments, like AmITheAsshole. Just reposting doesn’t give the kind of interaction that the original post would have.
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Hey! Some of those posts with no comments are me posting pictures of cute bugs that I took! I’m not a bot, I’m just not very interesting.
Hah, that sounds like me! I started a few communities in places where I knew I could supply some OC, and so far its been mostly just me posting my stuff, but I’m stoked whenever I get comments!
That was my initial thought. The bots are working overtime.
No doubt, it’s a chicken or egg problem.
Well the same page lists comments per day for the same period as 11,083,555. A ratio of 5.27 comments per post seems fine.
Yeah, a ratio means nothing if the bulk of the comments are only on a small portion of the posts. If 90% of the posts have 0 comments and the other 10% have 52.7 comments per post, that’s worth knowing.
And when comments are measured, you can say ‘but it’s just a small group making lots of comments’.
And when users are measured, you can say ‘but they’re just lurkers’.
Etc, etc. You can always naysay everything. This is impressive growth.
What Lemmy needs now more than anything is commenters. If the site is to succeed, it needs robust comment sections.
It does need that, but it also needs dedicated posters for small niche communities that keep posting into the void so that when someone eventually stumbles over they won’t go “aw it’s dead here, I guess Lemmy isn’t for me” but will actually find some content to engage with instead.
Totally agree. Each sub top mod should submit one good post per day at a minimum.
Engage this! 🤜
I only miss one or two subs, all other places I used to engage with are here and active. I would say there are less bots here.
Unfortunately it seems that MAUs are steadily declining as well.
Over half my feed is just low effort memes or auto posted arstechnica articles. Does this data include bot posts?
Half the posts are also just people specualting about activity on lemmy.
Also, there is approximately 50% of postings reserved for whinging about the speculation of activity on Lemmy.
That makes just about 100% then.
The data I am interested in is on postings that are whinging about postings that are whinging. It’s the metawhinge factor that really measures the health of a community
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I mean I’ve been posting Moldy Memes on the memes page. Mainly just to share my ancient saved stuff, and to help boost the meme page up with more posts. I do understand the frustration, but hopefully more, active users will come around.
I would assume so. But I see quite some organic content as well, with good interactions in the comment sections. I’m pretty happy. 90% of what was on reddit was of no interest to me as tends to be the case with any large content aggregator.
My feed has zero memes (except those form !risa@startrek.website which obv do not qualify as “low effort”). I think unlike with Reddit, what you see if what you subscribe to. If you don’t like what you’re seeing, change your subscriptions. Not having Reddit force stuff into the feed is nice but it also means everyone is fully responsible for what they’re seeing.
I think unlike with Reddit, what you see if what you subscribe to.
This was also the case with Reddit, unless you intentionally went to /r/all? Or am I misunderstanding you? To clarify I always used RIF or went to old.reddit and was never force-fed any content from outside my subscriptions, when I stuck to the home-page.
If you don’t like what you’re seeing, change your subscriptions. Not having Reddit force stuff into the feed is nice but it also means everyone is fully responsible for what they’re seeing.
You make a good point, but I think here’s where the current downside of Lemmy comes in, discoverability between instances are pretty bothersome and not easily handled unless you again, go to your instance /all and check what other communities other people on the instance are subscribed to.
Half the posts since yesterday are people bitching about Sync ultra costing the same amount of money as a Costco hotdog combo once a month. 🙄
Trying to prune and maintain the All feed is a huge task at the moment, especially since some content might be the type of stuff you want to see sometimes, so just blocking News or Memes isn’t a perfect solution.
Having Tags for posts for easier filtering would be great, but right now sticking to a carefully selected subscribed feed has been easier, for me at least.
There are some apps - like Connect and Sync - that allow filtering keywords, domains and entire instances, should you want to try to control your All feed.
Yeah it’s quite a game of whack a mole to get rid of all those memes subs and their bot content… it’s actually worse than on reddit it seems.
I wonder how the graph will look in a month’s time now that Sync is in open beta.
As someone who never used Sync before, trust me, it will spike like crazy. I don’t know why I never used it before but this an amazing experience. If you’re reading this and trying to find a Lemmy app to use and don’t care about FOSS, get Sync ASAP
As someone who has been using sync for reddit for years, the app has come a long way and learned a lot over that time, and pretty much all of that is transferred over to the Sync for Lemmy app. The sync for Lemmy app really has a huge head start thanks to the Sync for Reddit app.
I remember when Reddit was releasing their app, they appeared to base it on Sync, and you can still see a lot of that influence today. I remember the Sync dev thinking it was all over for his app, since Reddit is copying his design and surely has a team that can develop a good app, but obviously Reddit stole a good design and ruined it.
A lot of that came from Alien Blue too (rip)
how does it compare to jerboa and connect, ive been meaning to switch full time to connect but im just used to jerboa now even though I miss that swipe to next post feature
I’ve been using 5 different apps trying to find my favourite and I like Jerboa the most, until yesterday when I found Sync.
I tried Sync yesterday, but didn’t have a lot of time to fiddle with it. What makes it so great everyone’s excited? I checked it out and couldn’t immediately see it having a clear edge over Jerboa and Connect (but it looked nice)
I was further thrown off by the fact that if I wanted to buy it, I’d need to pay for a yearly subscription (and in that case it didn’t look cheap)
Honest question for who can answer
Probably the settings and ui smoothness are what I like. I set view to compact, switch the default touch action, move the image previews to the right and turn on colored indent lines.
After I open an image preview in connect it lags weirdly when I close it. Some of the text entry when commenting felt slightly jank to me, but I’ve been using sync for a long time.
Boost for Reddit all time user here so I’d never tried Sync before. When I took a dive to Lemmy, I tried Jerboa because it was the closest thing to Boost, great little app, but it think it needs some aesthetic polishing. The I tried Connect, and oh boy it’s fast, functional, pretty (although it needs some design polishing also), and I made it look like the closest to the classic Boost list view.
Then Sync for Lemmy was released and I wanted to know what was all the hype about. How could it be as good or better than Boost for Reddit?, I thought. Well, two days and I’m seriously thinking if I ever going to switch to Boost for Lemmy when it becomes available. Blew my mind!
Yes, there are some things not quite there yet (not being able to submit posts the major flaw for me), but design wise is just aeons ahead of any other Lemmy app.
Posting is coming soon. He’s just adding all the features, like crossposting, which I don’t think any apps support yet.
I copied this from another comment of mine. My advice is just give it a shot! The set up is super quick and the app just works.
For features: incredibly customizable material design. Extremely fluid. A lot of view customization. Comment drafts are something I missed on voyager.
Paid exclusive features: Cloud backups, user specific highlighting and theming, pull text from images, translate text, saved post folders (coming soon). No ads (yes the other apps don’t have ads and are generally free).
I don’t think I have any app, Lemmy or otherwise, that follows Material You so well.
I only used Jerboa, but sync is far superior. Jerboa was so glitchy, it worked about half the time. Sync is very smooth and the developer is on it about fixing any glitches that may pop up. I’ve been using lemmy with jerboa since reddit closed the door on 3rd party apps, and I couldn’t be more relieved to have sync back.
It’s just the new gold standard. Every app trying to compete for the biggest userbase will have to match or beat Sync.
Apps that ignore Sync and just target at FOSS minded users will share the remaining portion of the pie.
OK, convinced. Gonna try.
I always thought Sync for Reddit looked cool, but never found myself comfortable with it because RIF existed, and I always felt more comfortable with it.
I’m now using Sync and it is pretty great, but in my case it required some UI fiddling. It looks like Material Design 3, but I feel there’s something wrong with the default values for font and text size nothing that is unfixable, but just… Weird
Tweaking things to meet your usage is fantastic in Sync. The dev has some weird defaults, but assumes you want to tweak almost everything.
That’s honestly something I don’t entirely get in the case of Sync. Like, there is nothing wrong with allowing users to tweak things, but Sync is like, really heavy on the Material Design 3, you look at it, and it is undoubtedly M3. Yet, there is always something odd about the way it uses it.
Take for instance, the Navigation Bar, under Material Design Guidelines it is meant for destinations. And yet, on sync it offers:
- Home. A destination of sorts
- Explore. A button to open a bottom sheet
- Inbox. Also sort of a destination
- (optionally) Actions. Also a bottom tab
The main FAB is also weird, as it isn’t the primary action of the screen, it just opens a bottom sheet to bring more “actions” (some of which are destinations…)
Like, Sync is a very good app, but it has a few odd things that are really weird.
I’m not super sure what you’re complaining about with the navigation bar. It’s well within the realm of what Google uses them for. Go look at the YouTube app for example. It has a button on the navigation bar that opens a bottom sheet as well. I’d argue Sync’s use of it is more in-line with the guidelines than YouTube is, since the sheet for exploring is closer to a destination than a sheet for uploading different kinds of videos. The only odd thing is being able to convert the FAB into a navbar button, but at least it’s an option and not a requirement.
YouTube Music and Google Podcasts also have an “Explore” option on the navbar, they just open a page instead of a bottom navigation. He probably could convert that sheet into a page to make it more consistent, but it’s probably a sheet for usability reasons.
I think the point about the FAB is good in theory when talking about what the material guidelines say, but so few apps actually use the FAB, and I think Sync’s implementation which allows for such robust customization is a good and fairly intuitive use of it, even if it doesn’t exactly follow every guideline. It still does allow you to pick one primary action for it. It just also gives you more options.
I don’t know enough about M3 to really comment on that, but when he updates things we cry about the changes. It looks like material design is 9 years old. He’s been developing Sync for, what, 12 years and a bit? So we’ve probably requested a lot of stupid shit, but he’s pretty good about listening. I know I was unhappy with some of the major UI updates and was happy he let me choose.
RIF is hot garbage for UI though.
Would be great if all previous reddit apps went to lemmy. I personally can’t wait for Baconreader for Lemmy.
Apollo going to Lemmy would be the ultimate middle finger to Spez, especially with the false accusations of blackmail.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll keep using Sync as it’s actually good.
Lemmy is fun.
Man, I really hope more traffic starts heading into some of the more niche communities because getting a new thread every day or there and getting 1 or 2 replies - if that - is not how you sustain a site.
Are there really that few people into cars or engineering or DIY stuff on Lemmy?! Where the fuck are my fellow car and tinkering nerds at? And no one does projects around the house? So few posts in some of the home owner communities as well.
We really need more bread-stapled-to-trees content. That shit held Reddit up
What are we waiting for guys? Get your beads and let’s head outside!
I’ll message my dude Mark to join up, mother fucker loves anything mechanical.
Looking forward to having Mark on here
I also choose that guy’s Mark
Most of us are probably computer nerds right now… And I think a lot of people are afraid of posting their own post. It’s safer to just comment. But Lemmy is a very friendly community, so I think maybe people need to adjust from reddit a bit.
If you are reading this and haven’t made a post, make one now. :) Even if it’s just about asking why nobody posts in a specific community. Usually gets replies.
I have. And it did indeed get replies. Great! Then everything went dead again. Not so great.
Think we have to be the change we want to see. I try to post some interesting link every day but it’s harder maybe to find good car or tinker articles.
I am afraid of posting because everyone is friendly and I post hostile stuff. Willtry to post more tho.
I think part of the problem is finding communities.
I search for things, but they all look so small I assume that can’t be the proper one and end up not joining it. I’m not convinced I’m seeing the full list of what’s out there.
So much this! Can there really be only a dozen or so posts in a community as wide as cars? Like seriously? I must have some setting messed up.
This has been super helpful for finding communities outside of my instance lemm.ee, as many of them may not be discoverable without 1st searching for the exact community link
Please give the names of the communities. I’m not a home owner, but I love cars, DIY and tinkering :)
Are you me?
Yeah, this is my experience with Lemmy so far: it has replaced the “all” experience for me, but all my hobby / interests subs are completely dead.
I think the biggest problem with bootstrapping niche communities is that people interested in those topics have to search for and find the communities. There are a few resources for finding new communities such as https://lemmyverse.net/communities and the Reddit migration community, but it takes some effort.
Yes and it doesn’t help that communities change servers or something and apparently if you don’t change the settings you lose them from your subscribed list.
Seems like a rather shortsighted way of doing things if you ask me.
Also someone posted that the same name can be used on multiple instances, so like do you have to subscribe to all of them? Why have so many? Why would that be allowed? Makes little sense.
What are some of those communities you’re in for cars and tinkering? I was subscribed to both of those topics on reddit and am looking to join. I think there are probably lots like me who are here but not quite up and running.
I used the Communities link and searched for cars and DIY and engineering and subed to any of the ones which seem to have even a little bit of traffic (in the hopes that maybe things would increase eventually). For car ones, literally just “Cars” and “electric vehicles” are the only real one I bothered to sub to. Tried looking for Subaru or WRX stuff and that came up basically empty. For tinkering there is “3d Printing” and “woodworking” but I think the woodworking one is moving servers so it might disappear. Also “Machinist” but there’s no traffic in that one. Which is the case for far too many of the ones that come up.
We’re near critical mass and the more we share the apps and website, it’ll pull more people in. There’s some resistance to leaving Reddit for many, but not much.
I think the main subs are at a sustainable level, but not the niche subs. But Lemmy needs more than just politics and general news and complaining about Reddit to sustain itself.
Agreed. Having a nice front page with a whole bunch of things is great, but not having those niche communities is rough even doing the transition
I think part of it is a discovery problem. Which, I know, I don’t want some algorithm telling me what content to look at, but it’s tough to find all the stuff I’m interested in just by searching.
As I replied to someone else, it doesn’t help that the content moves around. Was a post in one of the subs (are they even called subs here?) that they were changing servers which apparently would mean they’d disappear if you didn’t change your settings too. For such a simple thing, you’d think it would be automatic.
they are called communities here
Where the fuck are my fellow car and tinkering nerds at? And no one does projects around the house? So few posts in some of the home owner communities as well.
I’m right here, where are you guys? Still looking for a good homeowner and DIY community on lemmy.
Homeassistant, HomeImprovement and woodworking are the only ones that I found that are mildly related and even then the traffic there is sparse.
Those niche communities will remain dead for years (assuming Lemmy grows and doesn’t die). It takes a long time to build these up.
Seems like every major transition from social media platform reduces that length of time for niche communities. It also took Reddit a while to get there as well. But people are already looking for identical communities on lemmy, like the tree ents
The reason I’m yet to post any threads is because sync is yet to add that ability. But the moment it is added I’ve got a few things to post. For now I’ll continue to upvote n comment
Suggestion: create a post in a niche community, and then cross post into a large one.
185 comments are mine! :)
And 7 posts…
To the moon!
Also think about how many more lurkers there are. There are many more lurkers than people making posts and comments.
There are dozens of us lurking!
DOZENS!!!
That was your third comment, good job :)
gettin my stats up :)
Yeah, I’m here too!
A truly embarrassing amount of comments are mine.
Well can’t blame you. Lemmy is fun :)
How does a cumulative line graph, with a running total that only ever increases, possibly descend rather than plateau?
I’m not sure exactly how the Fediverse Observer calculates the day-to-day totals, but my speculation for the dips in the graph is:
- Some of Lemmy’s servers/instances going offline could cause the total to go down;
- Post deletion could also contribute to the total going down.
These dips in the graph confused people in my previous post, as the dips were suggesting that the graph represents ‘new posts by day.’ I edited the title in the screenshot this time to clarify it is total by day.
Was gonna say the death of vlemmy probably contributed to one of those dips
In particular massive bot-related deletions.
Maybe posts were deleted or defederated.
Post deletions?
More posts like this. Data is beautiful
There is also a very clear upwards trend I would say 😁
Joined yesterday coming here from Reddit. My favourite app no longer works (Reddit is fun) and I just can’t get myself to use the official app. Lemmy seems pretty cool so far, only missing a few subs that were not super large on Reddit but are not really viable here due to a small number of users. Hopefully that will change if the number of users keeps growing so fast.
Make sure you look for communities from lemmy-verse.net in order to search all communities and not just ones someone on your instance has already found.
What happened on July 29th?
At first I thought it was Sync coming out, but it came out on August 2
There was a problem with lemmy.world where it would not sync with other federation. It has been fixed now.
I got a spike of usage on my app as well. No idea what happened.
Dang, phtn.app is nicer than vger.app on desktop! How do “apps” like this work as far as privacy goes? Are you storing user logins/passwords? Or is it “passed though”?
The client doesn’t store passwords at all, but the client does store your token in localStorage (it’s necessary so that we can make authenticated requests). The only way your account could get hacked is if they gain access to your browser and look through localStorage. If they have access to your computer, you have other problems though. If they do gain access, you can invalidate the JWT by changing your password.
At that rate lemmy will reach 1 billion in 184 days
Are you nerd-sniping? Cause that comment is begging for an xkcd reference 😁 → https://xkcd.com/605/
Maybe
Which is the end of another xkcd reference: https://xkcd.com/552/
That’s a lot of shit
Daily users have almost halved in the last month. Guessing a purge of bots or something
I’m cool with that. The only bots should be the AutoMod ones to help weed out the bullshit.
Great scot! 1.21 Gigawatts of active users!
It’s the gigareddits to gigalemmies reddit disarmament program!
July 30 comments when from 7.1 million to 9.9 million. In a single day?
an import from reddit perhaps? probably someone migrating an entire sub so it’s browsable from lemmy
No, people just downloaded sync.
