Edit: I don’t drink alcohol, it’s just the best way to describe it. From comments I’ll be going on a low carb diet, thank you all.

Explanation: male, 38, 130 pounds. Skinny, low muscle mass but have a beer keg belly.

My day is 7am wake up. Get kids to school. Work until 5. Get kids from school. Cook, shower and then I’m exhausted AF.

I’m semi fit? I’m a mechanic professionally and spring til summer I mountain bike regularly. So my calves are monsters.

But would like… basic at home sit ups. Push ups etc like on a Saturday, would that help at all?

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    It really depends on your metabolism. There is no right answer here. Some people can get rid of a beer belly with minimal effort and others will have to really work at it. Your best bet is changing diet, not drinking, and more regular focussed exercise.

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      Yup, weight management is 95% diet and 5% exercise. A single snickers bar takes a 12 minute mile of jogging to burn off; Our bodies are incredibly energy efficient. So if you’re looking to lose weight, it’s better to just skip the snickers bar altogether.

      Building muscle can raise your basal metabolic rate, (because you burn more calories to maintain that extra muscle) but even that is negligible when you consider how many calories you can consume without even realizing it.

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    No. I’m currently in the process of losing my beer belly.
    It’s going really well, here’s what I do:

    • only drink water, nothing with alcohol, calories or sweeteners
    • no snacks or sweets
    • whey shake for breakfast, small lunch (sandwich) and a normal-sized supper.
    • walk 30 miles per week, generally stay physically active, commute by bicycle.

    The good thing is that it works without counting calories or weighing myself.
    The bad thing is that I’m hungry half the day, but I figure that’s my body burning fat, so I even kinda enjoy it.
    I expect my belly to be gone by midsummer. A few situps won’t change much, there’s a FUCKTON of calories stored in a beer belly.
    It’s a big ole barrel full of fuel and you need to burn it all, even though your body doesn’t want to.

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    No. You need to adjust your diet and cut you caloric intake. Burning calories with exercise can give you some wiggle room but won’t do anything by itself. You could skip exercise entirely and still make progress with a good diet. I would suggest intermittent fasting. Everyone I know who’s had success dieting has done so with that method.

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      Yep. Weight is lost through diet, sport might help but can also make you hungry. The main benefit of exercise is better health through increased fitness.

      People should compare how much calories exercising burnes per hour compared to the simple act of e.g. switching sugary drinks for water. Especially when you aren’t fit to begin with, meaning you won’t for example be able to run for hours each week.

      Intermittent fasting definitely is a good method. But it varies for everyone. Imo it helps to start with changing what you groceries you buy. At least to me the further away from the plate you implement caloric reduction the easier it is.

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        Yeah that’s a good point and something I follow as well but didn’t think about earlier. If you don’t have it around you can’t eat it.

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    Going from doing nothing to something one day a week will have dramatic effects. But didn’t expect it to happen overnight or to have the same effect as going 3 or 4 times a week. Even just doing however many pushups you can once per day is a very good way to start condition yourself so you can handle and enjoy getting into a gym eventually. Sit ups are pretty trash. Six packs are made in the kitchen is a common adage for a reason. If you can’t work your core any other way I’d suggest planks over sit ups though. If you can, get a pull-up bar and power blocks. I would strongly recommend intending to get to a gym eventually though. From personal experience having a home gym was a bit of self sabotage

    Cook, shower and then I’m exhausted AF.

    This probably because you don’t exercise. Exercise gives you energy and is an excellent anti depressant. Starting is always the hardest part but you’ll have more energy the rest of the day.

    And more than anything, even what you’re doing, stick with it. Results take time. You’ll have days you think it’s doing nothing, you’ll miss days and think what’s the point of starting again, you’ll be disappointed with rate of progression and that’s always the biggest test.

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    The human body is absurdly efficient. Fat weight is tackled by reducing calorie intake (using whatever tactic works for you). Exercise only makes a small difference by comparison.

    Edit: for example, you could jog for almost an hour to burn approx 460 calories. Or you could just not eat 1 cinnamon swirl krispy kreme. Ate two at the family BBQ? You just gave your body enough fuel to light jog for 2 hours. A large vanilla milkshake has enough fuel to keep you jogging for an hour and a half. Stop overeating first or gym weightloss is useless.

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      Exercise can burn a ton of calories, but in order to be able to do that level of exercise you have to be reasonably fit. For someone who doesn’t have a ton of stamina, I agree that diet is much more effective.

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        Exercise in someone not particularly fit is also likely to trigger a stress response and their appetite will overcompensate. Exercise is good - everyone should be doing it - but for fat loss is pointless unless eating is well under control.

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          Agree. Heck, even when I was more fit (also, younger) a good exercise session would often result in me eating more calories than needed.

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    Your beer belly, is it hard or jiggly?

    If it’s a hard beer belly, that means you have lots of visceral fat, fat inside the rib cage. This is a strong indicator of metabolic syndrome.

    The single best way to tackle that beer belly is to go low carb, this reduces your blood sugar, letting your insulin levels come down, allowing your body to actually function properly. The human body, really, really, really, really does not like visceral fat, and will remove it with urgency when allowed to.

    If you like data, buying a continuous glucose monitor, then playing a game where you keep your glucose as flat as possible all day. The beautiful thing about this is you get instant feedback and know exactly how well your doing.

    A absolutely great resource on doing this intervention is: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

    This is the hormonal model of human metabolism, other people have mentioned calorie in calorie out CICO - which is technically correct, but practically unhelpful. Humans are amazing hormonal homeostasis machines, the hormones need to be functioning properly. You can eat 100 g of uranium, and have trillions of calories in your body, but you’re not going to be able to use it. It’s much better to get your hormones into balance and allow the body to self-correct and stay at optimal.

    The great thing about going low carb, is you will lose that visceral fat, your blood pressure will improve, sleep will improve, pre-diabetes will improve, sexual function will improve… Basically everything, the metabolism touches every part of the body! Insulin is extremely important, getting it into control has massive benefits.

    All of this! And you won’t even be hungry! If you’re doing low carb, you can eat as much as you want, as long as you keep your blood sugar down. BBQs steaks eggs bacon cheese, as much as you like at any time. Alcohol : avoid beers, if you must drink vodka or whiskey. – all of this works because your body will be able to tell you when you’re full. Have you ever eaten a steak, and it tastes absolutely delicious at the beginning, but the more you eat it the less and less delicious it tastes? That’s how all foods should be. that’s the human body self regulating. Sugar messes that system up!

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      Interesting. I would say yes it is more hard than jiggly, kind of i between but hard to say because of my small body size overall (5’7, 130lbs). I have an extremely high metabolism. I can eat whatever and dont necessarily gain extra weight. However I don’t drink alcohol, indent drink sodas, I try* to eat pretty healthy. But I love bread. So I eat a lot of bread, pastas etc.

      Hmm. But you have opened my eyes to do some research as I never would have expected something other than exercise effecting me. When I was younger I had a flat stomach and abs and over time my belly just grew and nothing else lol.

      I’ll check the the carbs stuff, I really appreciate it.

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        Assuming you’re an adult, you’re already well inside the normal range of weight for your height. Based on that, it sounds like your eating habits aren’t terrible, so you are that unicorn that actually just needs to exercise more and you’re not eating all your hard work away. If you start feeling persistently fatigued, add a bit of carbs back to your diet. A little bit isn’t going to make your belly balloon back out. :) Good luck!

        Edit: I stand corrected, see below. I was incorrectly assuming things from your other comments when I hadn’t even read your main post! Duh.

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          Based on that, it sounds like your eating habits aren’t terrible, so you are that unicorn that actually just needs to exercise more

          TOFI : thin outside fat inside : is very common! That is 100% diet based

          https://hackertalks.com/post/5592913

          Something like 92% of westerns don’t have optimal metabolic health… Which is a polite way of saying only 8% are perfectly healthy, and the rest are on the sliding scale of insulin resistance

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            Thank you for the correction. I somehow completely skipped over OP’s main text in their post and went right to inferring stuff from their other comments and thought maybe they were young and had some body image issues. 38, skinny, but a beer keg belly definitely sounds like diet.

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        Any time, happy to answer any questions you may have. You can look at your last lipid panel, and look at the TG/HDL ratio, if its less then 1 then your insulin sensitive, but the higher it is over 1, the more insulin resistant you are. Insulin sensitivity is the real measure of metabolic health!

        If you want to read more about this ratio https://hackertalks.com/post/5922188

        Some people who can’t do low carb do time restricted eating, or intermittent fasting, i.e. one or two meals per day. This can also improve your insulin levels, the longer you can go without sugar the better for the body. This works, but I think its doing it on hard mode, because its like edging with sugar cravings, but it works for people who can’t give up their breads :)

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            hahah, not doomed! Its a solvable problem.

            Get a GCM, strap it on, see how your blood sugar is doing! Maybe move your bread to one meal a day. It takes like 4-5 hours to get all the sugar out of the blood after a meal, so one meal + 5 hours, 6 hours a day of sugar, 18 hours a day of no sugar… Could be enough time to let your body resolve the visceral fat.

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        Hard vs jigggily is fairly straightforward to gauge. Sit down in jeans and a belt. Bonus points if neither stretch. Poke your belly near your belt. If it’s jigggily you will be able to palpitate some skin and fat before you get to a more solid layer. To make the transition even more obvious, flex your abs. If you have no idea what I’m on about, you have a hard belly.

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          if i poke my belly and flex my abs i can feel my abs flexing with my finger. so i would say its more squishy than jiggly. regardless. going to try low carb anyways lol. thank you

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            Is there a soft layer between your finger and abs that you can press through to get to your abs? It yes, jigggily and subconscious fat. If not, firm and visceral fat. Visceral is far worse for your health and is associated with higher carb diets.

            Low carb is an excellent way to drop weight, regardless of what kind of fat you have.

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      Agree so hard about low carb. That was my key to finally losing weight (FAST) and keeping it off for years.

      But what about jiggly fat? What’s the difference?

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        Jiggly fat, is excess adipose tissue. And that is also symptom of metabolic syndrome.

        Visceral fat, hard fat, is a stronger indicator. Simply because it’s really unhealthy for the organs, so the body really doesn’t want to put anything there if it can avoid it.

        I think people with jiggly fat know they’re unhealthy, it’s pretty obvious to them. But people of visceral fat can think they’re incredibly healthy, but not be. So it’s surprising for them.

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    Do strict keto, the majority of a beer belly is water which bonds with fat at a 3:1 ratio so when you’re burning fat as your primary fuel you’ll piss half of it out in the first month without any change in physical activity.

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    Trying to do a set amount of exercise games in VR helped me get more fit. I’m not good at sticking with something but pretty great at playing the same sections of a video game telling me what movements to do everyday.

    Just having things to do/try as exercise everyday was more fun/rewarding for my brain… But I had to make sure they were exercise too.

    Then I’d do more as I got healthier, and eventually I attached weights to my wrists and legs.

    But if you’re a mechanic you might want to ease into it, because of your back.

    P.S also what everyone else said about diet is true… And both options, dietary changes and exercise will leave you feeling tired or lethargic until your body falls into line… So a lot of results come from mental discipline and committing to never missing a day or cheating yourself. Gotta hang in there and do your best to firgive and recover when you faulter.

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    if you stick to your workouts and train to failure, your muscles will grow.

    however to eliminate fat, you don’t exercise. you eat less. when you are eating below caloric maintenance, your body makes up the difference in fat. you can’t control where the fat comes from. you just have to maintain that for a long time and it’ll go away. everyone stores fat differently. some in legs, some in stomach, etc.

    but you cannot exercise away body fat. it’s like 80/20 diet exercise

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      Personal anecdote here: I run 40km/week so that I don’t have to be so picky with my diet. I’m offsetting about 2,400cal from my weekly intake.

      That said, I need to be careful sometimes because my appetite can surge and I can easily break even and even surpass being in a deficit. Its just a matter of being aware of how much I’m eating in general and adapting to appetite changes.

      That said, when I want a pizza I’m gonna smash that pizza down my gullet lol

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        I run a half marathon 1-2 times a month, and the costco poutine (2000+ calories) really hits different when it’s guilt free

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      A closer look at physical activity and metabolism

      You can’t easily control the speed of your basal metabolic rate, but you can control how many calories you burn through physical activity. The more active you are, the more calories you burn. In fact, some people who seem to have a fast metabolism are probably just more active — and maybe fidget more — than others.

      To burn more calories, the Physical Activity Guidelines for Americans recommends the following:

      Aerobic activity. As a general goal, aim for at least 30 minutes of moderate physical activity every day. If you want to lose weight, maintain weight loss or meet specific fitness goals, you may need to exercise more.

      Moderate aerobic exercise includes activities such as brisk walking, biking, swimming and mowing the lawn.

      Vigorous aerobic exercise includes activities such as running, heavy yardwork and aerobic dancing.

      Strength training. Do strength training exercises for all major muscle groups at least two times a week. Strength training can include use of weight machines, your own body weight, heavy bags, resistance tubing or resistance paddles in the water, or activities such as rock climbing.

      No magic bullet

      Don’t look to dietary supplements for help in burning calories or losing weight. Products that claim to speed up metabolism usually don’t live up to their claims. Some may cause bad side effects.

      https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/metabolism/art-20046508

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        The only thing that helps lose weight is something that makes you not want to eat. ADHD meds do that for instance. Those “miracle” drugs that cost half a salary do that. You can’t chow down on fastfood and lose weight a the same time

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    Working out isn’t the primary path to losing weight, though it is of course a big part of staying healthy.

    You burn quite a lot of calories in a day just from being alive. The additional calories you’d burn from a brisk 20 minute walk might about to one cookie. It’s far easier to just not eat the cookie.

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          That’s perfectly okay as long as the ratio of 20 minutes per cookie is understood.

          OP has a goal to lose weight though, not just stand still. And with the busy schedule they described, 40 minutes of exercise is hard to fit in, whereas not eating 2 cookies takes no time, and if anything puts time back in your day.

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        OP’s stated goal is to lose weight and I’m just commenting on that basis. I like cookies too.

        In real life I’m hardly a proponent of skipping life’s rich pleasures. But if weight loss is the goal, a little restraint is a hell of a lot more practical than a lot of exercise.

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      That’s interesting. I’d guess my career keeps me “fairly” fit then? I average 8,000 steps per shift, and sometimes I do “reps” with ratches and other word nonsense. (Mechanic)

      This is all good info though, I had 0 knowledge about anything when asking my original question. I didn’t know there were even multiple types of fat on your body.

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    I think the conventional wisom is diet is more important than exercise in losing weight, although I think most people would recommend working out once a week regardless if you would lose weight or not, basically any working out would be positive if you aren’t at all, it couldn’t hurt to do sit ups and push ups and see where that takes you.

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    you don’t even have to work out.

    you can get there simply with diet.

    that said, dieting doesn’t target where the fat comes from.

    Core strength training (like sit ups, push ups, etc,) will help with muscle definition, and that can improve the appearance, but if you break down how much say, a pound of body fat is in excercise vs how much that pound is in hambergers… well. restricting calories will always be more effective for weight loss.

    has your doctor said you need to lose weight? 130 pounds sounds not-overweight.

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      I know OP posted a specific question, but don’t forget that working out is incredibly good for your physical and mental health. You’ll feel stronger and more mentally resilient, and you can get rid of a surprising number of body pains.

      You’ll also increase your energy levels, as counterintuitive as that seems.

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    CICO

    Calories in <<< calories out

    You can lose your beer belly sitting on a sofa all day doing nothing, just as long as you’re intaking less calories than you burn.

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        dudes a mechanic im sure OP gets plenty of strength training from that. could use another cardio activity tho when mountain biking isnt an option

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          So to actually be helpful and answer op’s actual question.

          Any physical activity will help to an extent.

          What will help more for weight loss is counting calories and expending more than you consume.

          But if you want to have any kind of actual muscle tone you need to do resistance training, wrenching alone isn’t enough.

          If op is cool being skinny/ low muscle tone, then diet and cardio will do it. If op wants muscle tone then they should lift weights or do some resistance training like calisthenics.

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      I think you meant:

      Yes

      If you stop drinking beer and get a better diet.

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    Are you 5’3"? I don’t mean that to be offensive I am genuinely asking. I haven’t weighed anywhere near 130 since I was maybe 12?

    Do you want a six pack or do you just want the belly bulge to go away?

    Every little bit helps. Generally speaking if you can work a few push ups and sit ups into your daily routine it will likely have more effect than doing an hour long dedicated work out once a week.

    Start out with 10 sit ups every morning right when you wake up and do 10 every night before you hop in bed. Add more as you get comfortable or do them periodically throughout the day.

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        I had the class record for most sit ups in 60 seconds at one point in my life lol. I think it was 43. I probably couldn’t do 43 sit ups in an hour at this point in my life… I should probably start working out again lol

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      Are you 5’3"? I don’t mean that to be offensive I am genuinely asking. I haven’t weighed anywhere near 130 since I was maybe 12?

      I’m also stuck on this guy’s weight and him saying that it includes a beer belly. Not to be judgemental, it’s just fascinating to hear the details about different body types. I’m on the taller side and am just a few pounds shy of double OPs weight.

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        I cannot fathom being 130 pounds again. I’ve been over 200 for so long I can’t even imagine how much more nimble you must be lol.

        Well hey congrats on the metabolism. I know it can be inconvenient how much you gotta eat n all that, but trust me it beats the alternative. My brother is a massive stoner and he eats like an elephant, but he’s always skinny as twig. I eat like half of what he eats and I’m a hefty slab of meat.

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          idk, ive gotten made fun of my whole life for being skinny. this also prevents me from gaining muscle mass you know. like…if want to buy a watch, i have to get the smallest watch possible for my wrists. and im not too nimble anymore. almost 40 so my joints are all breaking haha.

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            Maybe it’s time to start smoking some pot. Jk jk.

            Don’t tell me 40 is when the joints start breaking. That’s right around the corner for me.

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              Nah it’s a joke. I stay as physical as I can. My brother surfs and plays baseball hear round in Hawaii and he is ripped. I just mountain bike in the bin snow season here. Maybe I just need to find time to exercise or something. But my joints can’t take skateboarding anymore