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This is just one of the many reasons I have no interest in new cars. If it needs an internet connection then I’m not buying it. There are very few things I need my vehicle to be able to do and having access to internet isn’t one of them. I don’t even like that my truck has automatic wipers - I vastly prefer the traditional ones. Hell, I don’t even need the radio.
Honestly, fuck the whole thing, I’ll take my bike. With blackjack. And hookers.
Honestly, fuck the the bike, it will save you from purchasing a hooker
But then who will I play blackjack with?
This webpage is broken. It doesn’t have content until you allow thrid-party scripts.
Sorry I don’t check if a webpage requires 3rd party scripts before I post them for you. Leave it blocked and moved on I guess?
Who do they think owns the Jeeps?
Absolutely fucking not.
Though it does sound like a good kicker for the after market systems to make a comeback.
Not a chance. The new ‘infotainment’ clusters integrate necessary features like climate control to prevent aftermarket replacements in most vehicles. I honestly don’t know if any manufacturers even use the single and double DIN standards anymore.
Mazda is supposedly one of the last major automakers that has mostly physical controls in their cars. Definitely at the top of my list for any future car purchases.
I highly recommend Mazda if this is something you care about. I had a 2016 Mazda 3, and now I have a 2022 Mazda 3. The infotainment is all controlled though a physical knob and buttons, the climate control is all physical buttons. I am not sure if the screen is even a touch screen… I don’t think it is, but I have never attempted to touch it since I was so used to using the physical knob system in my old 2016. The physical buttons are why I picked my current 3 turbo up over the WRX I also tested. The WRX and the other Subaru’s I checked out all annoyed me with forcing use of the touch screen snd buttons to change the climate settings. I hope Mazda never changes that aspect of their cars. Not sure if the other models also do this, but I don’t see why they would.
Also, the climate control is all on smaller screen that just displays info with the climate system. The infotainment has nothing to do with the climate controls.
My 2018 Chev Trax may be the perfect level of tech for my tastes. Climate stuff is all physical, but it has a nice screen that you can hook a phone to through a USB or Bluetooth to pass maps/audio/calls through it with the audio and calls being controllable by buttons on the wheel.
The only actual car operation buttons on the screen are things you wouldn’t do when driving anyhow like decide if it locks automatically or setting the default volume.
Most obnoxious thing it does is keep reminding me that the sat radio subscription is expired when I start it.
My 2023 Mazda has a touch screen but you never actually have to touch it. In fact, they put it far enough away that it is difficult to touch while driving and disable the touch when the car is moving. There are knobs and buttons in-between the front seats that control it. Also none of the important stuff is controlled through the infotainment system, it is just settings, satnav, and radio (or Android Auto/carplay). Not having to interact with a touch surface while driving is one of my favorite features of my car, and there are a lot of other things that I love about it too.
Part of me is annoyed that I didn’t get a Mazda 3 when I got my car back in 2023, I got a 2021 Seat Leon FR PHEV Hatchback.
I like the Leon, but it has so much touch controls.
The worst is the controls for the fog lights, heated rear window and defrost.
They are all located on a small touch panel to the right of the steering wheel, it is also angled down making it harder to see.
So if I am driving and the windows start to fog up I need to take my eyes off the road and aim my finger to touch the correct button without touching any other controls as I might be blinding other drivers.
It is a terrible design.
The AC and battery management screens are all under different submenus on the infotainment screen.
The rest of the car is great though, and so far i have not seen any ads on the screen.
Mazda has been flying under the radar doing things right for a long time, in my experience.
I’m currently driving a 2012 Mazda3 that we bought new 13 years ago. It has been completely reliable while our 2013 Honda has needed some repairs. It is fuel efficient (40mg hwy), and it is still fun to drive. In the automatic transmission’s manual-shift mode the shift lever goes in the correct direction for driving dynamics (pull back to upshift, forward to downshift). In the normal automatic drive mode it seems to use an accelerometer to downshift when braking downhill.
My very first car was a mazda MX-6 from the late 80s with a 5-speed manual transmission. I bought it with 180,000 miles as a cheap junk “first car” and drove it for another 40,000 miles over the next few years. It needed some repairs, of course, but it was fun to drive and did a great job getting me around the state while I was in the late college to early independent adult years.
Now I’m middle aged and my drive to work is just a few miles via quiet twisty country road. I think I’m gonna get an MX-5 Miata next. 6-speed and soft top. That sounds nice.
For years I thought a fast dual motor EV sport sedan would be my next vehicle (whatever the non-Tesla model 3 performance equivalent would be) but a roadster would probably make it more fun to get up and leave the house. Plus so much cheaper and, given the small amount of miles I drive, probably more environmentally friendly. It would definitely generate a lot less microplastic pollution form the weight difference alone.
Despite no longer sticking to the DIN standard, and climate controls being integrated into the infotainment system, there still exists a big market for aftermarket infotaiment systems, they just have to be engineered for the specific make of car you have. But they can be bought for most cars that have infotaiment systems that are now outdated
I haven’t replaced a head unit in years, but I’m not surprised the proprietary systems require custom components for replacement. I can’t count the amount of head units I’ve replaced with my own ‘custom’ wire harness to save the $15 it cost for the Metra adapter. Lol
The Chinese won’t be stopped by that. CANBUS integration controlled by a poorly designed app coming to your (2-3 versions old) Android head unit!
Custom flashes are probably more likely given the system integration of the head unit. UBlock for your car. How crazy is that?
Jeep is a Stellantis product. Literally the worst quality auto manufacturer in North America. They are circling the drain and jacking up the prices on their vehicles and making Pikachu faces when they don’t sell. Their only customers are people who don’t know how to research their purchases, and putting advertisement hell into their cars is another example of that. I suspect they will not be in business a decade from now.
I work in the auto industry. Can confirm, Stellantis is in bad shape. I wouldn’t buy anything from them.
What’s confusing is that some great auto brands from Europe are under Stellantis (Peugeot and Citroen at least)
And they’re actually not doing a shitty job in designing or selling their vehicles. It’s mainly the Chrysler brands or basically the US brands under Stellantis. I seriously hope the shit happening in Chrysler doesn’t come trickling down to the other brands
Turns out regulations are good for businesses.
Regulations are definitely excellent for both businesses and consumers in the long term. But businesses are often too stupid to see past ANYTHING “quarterly”.
That depends on the business culture and how good their advisors are. And also the size if the business matter.
But yeah generally angelosaxton companies who have a mangement structure that’s way more in depth than it needs to be fuck these things over
“Either the Line Goes Up or the Rope Goes Up” - evil CEOs everywhere
They’re good for longevity, but they’re bad for quarterly profits. In the US, we care much more for the latter.
Peugeot and Citroën have their own issues in Europe (and technically in America) with the recall of car due to defective airbags.
Out of curiosity, who would you buy from?
Out of the American big three, I have the most confidence in Ford. I’ve worked with engineers at all three, and the ones at Ford are the ones that I felt were most compitent.
That being said, my next car will probably be a Toyota or a Subaru. Both way better than the American OEMs.
Jeep Renegade is a rebadged Fiat 500L.
It’ll be less than a decade
I had two Jeeps, first was originally my dad’s. It was an old shitbox. The other one was a somewhat old shitbox. 1998 & 2010. We dumped more time and money into them than I’d care to admit.
“Speed”, but instead of a vehicle exploding, it’s to avoid ads.
Officer, “Why’d you run that red light?”
Me, “If I hear the Meow Mix jingle one more time I’m gonna snap!”
Jeep, having heard you mention a product, dutifully plays the relevant ad.
Officer: Why were you speeding?
Me: Wanted to avoid ads.
This isn’t even funny… This is something people will do. Jeep doesn’t give a fuck about safety. FUCK Jeep.
Jeep isn’t a true company anymore it’s just another brand under Stellantis. So FUCK stellantis and every other brand under them.
I thought this was a funny onion type of article… It isnt. Wtf
Our whole existence has turned into an Onion article.
It really has. And it’s getting worse every day. I wish that was hyperbole.
I thought this was the onion for a moment
Furthermore: Slashdot still exists? And it still has an active community in the comments!?
Lemmy alone hasn’t been enough to replace reddit for me; I should see if I still remember my old password…
Slashdot still has a good feed of articles. I never quit it 🤣
Yep it is slow but steady.
Fark is still around too.
Fark rules!
The site is still there, but the comment sections are no longer fun nor do you find intelligent feedback as frequently as you could in the early days. Last time I was poking around there, the mods were upvoting climate denial comments. So much for science. (source: low uid)
This is all I need to never even look at a Jeep… how pathetic can these idiots get?
This, exactly this. The fact that they would even consider this rules them out for me forever.
I already had dozens of reasons to never buy a Jeep. This is just the cherry on a shitty cake.
Yep, I swore off any and all Chrysler products over a decade ago.
It’s actually part of the Sirius XM package. So I think that all you have to do is not bother with Sirius XM.
Too bad it comes with the jeep…
Hey, you might want to team up with Sony…
Wasnt there also something about showing ads while your show is paused now too?
I’m ready to go back to kodi.
Happens on Prime now
Depending on how long you were gone, don’t get real debrid btw.
What happened to real-debrid?
DRINK VERIFICATION CAN!
Roll verification coal to continue
FTFY
Is this real?? Do you have the source?
I’m lost for words.
…what if the whole family is watching? Does everyone have to raise their hands and yell “McDonalds”? Including the kids?
This might just as well be used in “smart” fridges. “Do this corporate dance to get 20% off your next Corn Flakes”
There’s just no way I’m ever going to do this.
Honestly, I’d rather go forage for twigs and berries than interact with ads.
I haven’t seen an ad in like 15 years or so (at home) and i already find them incredibly dystopian and weird. I don’t really understand how people put up with that right now, but it kind of tells me that they would actually do the laola wave and yell pepsi at their screen. I found my old VHS collection the other day and watched karate kid that i recorded as a child. I think it had 2 ad breaks who were really short, and back then we thought that it’s getting a bit much with the ads.
You raise a good point.
I’m much the same in that I just refuse to watch anything with ads. They really are dystopian and weird.
I also get that same feeling when I see someone just grinding through youtube ads, but people that do that just don’t seem to have any awareness of the interaction - it’s just part of the show.
The weirdest of all is when people (usually brave browser enthusiasts?) try to claim that “some” ads are actually a good thing because it makes them aware of some product they actually desire which they wouldn’t have been aware of otherwise. I’ll take blissful ignorance thanks.
So yes, I can imagine people doing this stuff without really thinking about it.
Here you go
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sony-patent-mcdonalds/
Edit: I didn’t see the other comment, oops
Stellantis, the parent company of Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, and Ram,
Not just a Jeep thing. at least not for long.
Holy cow. They’ve done the impossible - they’ve found a way to make a Dodge into a shittier vehicle. I am awestruck.
All the brands of vehicle that have some of the worst historical reliability!
I was looking for a car a few months ago and was looking at newer models, used, but mostly less than a decade old. Then I started reading about all the tracking and such.
I gave in to my inner teenager and bought a 2001 Porsche 911.
The entertainment center can connect via Bluetooth but there’s no Android Auto, no navigation. It has Sirius XM but I never had a subscription to it and never will.
I might add a backup camera but that’s it. My phone is more than enough tracking, even with as much of it shut off as possible.
This is the way.
Add in a magnetic charger phone mount and you’re golden in my opinion.
A previous owner mounted one where the cigarette lighter was. I’m going to replace it soon since it doesn’t really fit - I can’t charge my phone in the holder.
Maybe I’ll finally learn FreeCAD and print my own.
Damn, sweet ride dude! Congrats!
Thanks! The next car on the list was a 2004 Honda Civic Si hatchback manual.
I honestly would have been happy with either car. Having so much fun with the Porsche though.
This is the way.
Yeah. Sometimes my bank account gets sad but I don’t.
The ad they show is an ad for their own extended warranty package and it says that “Odometer must be less than 36000 miles to purchase” Anyone wanna take bets for whether or not that will actually shut up once you go over 36k miles? (I’m betting no)
We’re really deep into nightmare territory with the kind of stuff companies feel its ok to do to customers…
If the jeep even makes it to 36k.
There’ll be a special maintenance package that will be available. Then it’ll be ads for new Stellantis vehicles.
“Check Engine light on again? Check out the new 2027 Jeep Wagoneer! You’ll definitely get more miles out of the new one compared to the 2025 model thats now broken”
“To allow a mechanic to access the oil tank, please subscribe to our Premium Oil Change and Maintenance tier. Only $12.99/month. Your oil tank will remain hermetically sealed until you sign up.”
It’s not as bad as a Cybertruck! We promise!
We need legislation against the unending encroachment upon our daily lives by advertisers.
Best of fucking luck, hon. You’re on the Fury Road now. What you need is a U-turn.
And actual privacy protection.
Yeah, like that’s gonna do anything…
I read a post somewhere where someone started getting this after they went over 36000 miles
Old cars are gonna be so expensive.
I wonder how hard it would be to make an open source car brain that can be a drop-in replacement for the commercial ones?
Hard, even stuff from 10 years ago have proaitary hardware across multiple “brains”.
