I guess I don’t play Mario then. It’s a pretty simple concept.
I got a Wii for Christmas years ago. Never used it much. The last Nintendo console I bought was a game cube. You can easily live without Nintendo. They’re definitely decent games. Just not for that price.
They do fill a “good for all ages” niche that not many other AAA games do nowadays. Which makes the exorbitant pricing especially strange.
Its much better than that. There’s plenty of Mario content to emulate.
Yeah, Switch 1 was a nice break from playing games on my PC.
You underestimate how many people literally cannot stop themselves from playing Mario. I’d hope it’s mostly children begging their parents, but I have a feeling there’s a decent amount of 30 year olds with disposable income and zero impulse control in there.
I’m going to try very hard not to be, but I’m definitely the type of person you’re describing. That Nintendo direct had me drooling at the new Mario kart and donkey Kong games, and nothing hits like a zelda. Super mario wonder was a delight.
I only hope I can emulate this system relatively quickly. I am not a man of strong willpower.
Don’t feel bad for liking things. Your post kinda bums me out. Don’t let all this negative hype impact what will make you happy. If you can afford it. Do it. If you can’t then yeah don’t, but we as people are allowed to enjoy things.
That’s why I’m just not looking at these new games. It would be interesting to know how they’re tackling an “open world” Mario Kart! But I already know it’s too expensive for what I’ll get out of it, so taking a look will only be bad for me in the long run.
Sounds like they’re doing a Forza Horizon kind of setup, where you drive around the open world to get from one structured race to another.
It’s kinda cool in that it keeps you in the world, but also annoying if you just wanna bang through races
Do you play many indie games? I feel like they’ve taken most of these formulas and really expanded on them, way more than Nintendo will do.
I do! Many of my favorites are indie games, I’d say more than not. But I guess there’s some things that you can’t do without a massive budget or many many years in development, because many nintendo core franchises just aren’t beat in quality in my opinion, at least for some entries.
I introduced mine to undertale and other stuff like cuphead, old school sonic games and SNES emulators. We dont care about latest Mario’s, but he does have odyssey.
The Switch was the generation where I really started to have adult money, and while a lot of the games I got were lower-priced indie titles, I did get pretty much all of the big 1st party titles.
There’s a reasonable chance I get a Switch 2, but I’m not gonna be buying a lot of games over $70, and the ones I do will probably be when they go on sale for like, 10-15% off. I suspect I’ll be buying fewer games this generation, and I’m okay with that.
the ones I do will probably be when they go on sale for like, 10-15% off
Which is almost never.
It’s uncommon, absolutely. But I bought Super Mario Odyssey around the third time I got an alert that it was on sale, for $50 or so. This took a couple years, so it’s reasonably rare, but if the future looks like the past, it will happen
The fact that you have to have alerts to be able to get the games at a discount is pretty bad, but you’re doing it the right way!
Streamers.
Streamers and YouTubers are mostly who I blame for this. They are influencers who showcase the games and it makes their fans want to buy it.
I can’t count how many times I’ve read online that so many people refuse to buy some game, then I go on YouTube and see like 5 YouTubers playing it day one, because they (or maybe even a fan) bought it.
me! I’m that guy pre ordering the switch as soon as I can lol
Imagine going back to exclusivity with gaming consoles. PCs, and by extension, Steam won the console wars, and Nintendo is just trying its damnest to hold on to the last gasp of gaming exclusivity.
Yeah, no. It is not the only place to play Mario. There’s emulation and Piracy. I’m quite certain skilled people will try to hack the Switch 2 and sooner or later there will be a Switch 2 emulation (although might take a while). €80-90 euro for one single game is nuts.
The only reason I would purchase a Switch 2 is when it is capable of being hacked.
Don’t forget the other obvious option: we don’t have to play mario. Also, there’s a used game market with a ton of older games and Nintendo doesn’t get a cent from that anymore.
10 year old mario kart 8 is still like 70 bucks with the dlc. Why are people so shocked?
No offence to folks who like Mario games, but I don’t personally feel good playing them. They have a working class protagonist who works to maintain monarchic status quo (fighting evil kingdom to defend another kingdom). Also the games encourage violence toward turtles. Not cool in my books.
Anyway, jokes aside, I’m not getting a Switch 2 anytime soon, will probably get a Steam Deck before that.
Everyone knows Mario is cool as f–k. But who knows what he’s thinking? Who knows why he crushes turtles? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mystical (nonexistent?) Dr Pepper? Perchance.
You can’t just say “perchance.”
Interested too see how piracy works for the switch 2. I will not buy one, as much as I enjoy Nintendo’s games I cannot stand their software experience (UI, shovelware) or their eco system…how many peripherals do you need!?
I will buy a Switch 2 for however much it costs and when Nintendo first party titles start costing a whole week of work plus overtime I will still buy them. I will take out a mortgage for the eventual $49,999.99 console and $4,999.99 games. I will sell individual organs directly to Nintendo for whatever they want. I will singlehandedly commit genocide with my bare hands for Nintendo. I will gladly die for Nintendo. I live to serve my angel of salvation.
And he’s right. Switch 2 and its $80 games will not only sell like hot cakes, it will set the standard for AAA publishers going forward. I fully expect to see $100 base games as standard before the end of the next generational cycle, and they’ll still have microtransactions and endless special editions.
Yup. Gamers, PC, console, mobile, all want their circus to escape reality, regardless of the cost short or long term.
I mean I keep hoping that gamers would have an epiphany and push back on these anti-consumer practices but I’ve seen nothing in the past twenty years, only desperate games defending being gouged.
The game market crashed before. It can do so again.
And I will bail to PC as my main way of playing games. I know I’m going to have to eventually, the way the industry is going.
And I’ll continue to not buy them and support indie developers instead.
Me too. I’ve put more hours into Balatro and Tape To Tape than I care to admit…
Tape to tape? Oh that’s new to me… Thanks friend
If you enjoy hockey and roguelites, it’s the game for you.
Dammit. I really didn’t need another addicting game
Update: it’s a great game. I’m not even a huge hockey fan, but it sucked me right in.
Lmao rougelite hockey. Eventually there will be a rougelite for everything 😂
I’ll admit that I wasn’t sure about it at first and it was kind of an impulse buy, but I was hooked after my first couple of runs. Great game for the Steam Deck too.
Sure. Unless you have a gaming friend group that gets interested in some new multiplayer game. Then you either buy it so you can play with them, or you don’t play with them. If this continues for multiple games, you will slowly grow distant from your friend group.
Idgaf about online multiplayer, only local and singleplayer.
If the only thing keeping them as friends is playing all the latest ass-expensive games with them, they’re not worth having as friends.
Most groups like this have anchor games everyone goes back to after the 3 hours playing the new game is done. You can still be friends with them.
That ought to be fine… it’s like saying your friends aren’t really your friends unless you play [x y or z]… In which case, I’m moving on to play what I enjoy.
But… it’s not the only place to play mario…
Or pirate it when the emulator inevitably happens
uh I fuckin wish I could play mario 64, sunshine, or galaxy on my current generation switch
Oh wait I can…
You can…
Dat’s da joke.
/r/whoosh for me then 😅🤣
me too, but it’s about sailing the seven seas right?
I wasnt talking about that. Those games were released on switch in a bundle lol
However that was a limited time bundle which they no longer sell. Cause fucking smarts.
https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Games/Nintendo-Switch-games/Super-Mario-3D-All-Stars-1832369.html
exactly this
They haven’t sold those games on switch for awhile
You think so huh? ~pulls on frock coat~
Is that right? ~puts on tricorn hat~
I don’t think Ralph agrees. ~“You’re goddamn right I don’t! - Ralph the Parrot”~
He’s 100% right. Gamers buy terrible overpriced content all the time. Basically all of my friends that play WoW bought a 90$ a mount because it has an auction house on it. That’s more than the actual game costs.
Let’s say Switch 2 emulation doesn’t get good for a few years (which is totally possible, depending on how well Nintendo locked it up). He’s saying that if it’s the only way to play NEW Mario games, people will buy it at $80. He’s right, millions will, but there are some like me who are huge Mario fans who will refuse to support such naked greed. Enough to matter to them? Probably not.
But I hope Switch 2 emulation does get to a playable state sooner rather than later.
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Not that prices will be much better for long
Won’t they, though? Even disregarding the option of piracy, while new games will be $70 or $80 or whatever at launch, they go down eventually and Steam pricing has always been better than console.
Sounds like someone thinks there is only one choice, buy or don’t.
🏴☠️Harhar! 🏴☠️
For everyone chiming in with piracy (which I support): Layden is more calling Nintendo fans “junkies” than advocating for 80$ prices. His message (even in the face of Ryan’s LSG push) has always been “first party exclusivity sells consoles”.
I bought a switch and those Zelda games during Covid. When I moved, the switch got boxed up. It’s still in the box today.
I’ll be skipping Switch #2 - $80 games reinforces the decision.
You can play Mario on old dumb phones using J2ME emulators.
I can’t imagine trying to play games designed for controllers on a touch screen.
J2ME are old dumb non-touchscreen phones. My last one was Sony Ericsson j108i. And just now reading the Wikipedia entry, it was actually the last non-smartphone phone by Sony Ericsson! Nice.
Damn, the nostalgia is real. And the design still looks much better than smartphones which look pretty much all the same. Back then, phones had personality.
The Sony Ericsson phones in particular had very advanced J2ME support that I didn’t see that much difference between that and my first smartphone (Nokia C5-03). Not that there weren’t differences, the smartphone was definitely more advanced, but it wasn’t that huge of a leap.
