This is so stupid. Grow up.
If you don’t want your leg humped, then stop dressing so provocatively.
I am glad the grocery store across the street is adamant about no animals allowed, unless they are genuinely needed for service (like a seeing eye dog, not an emotional support animal). And I am a dog owner. The only store I would ever even considered bringing them into, is the pet store where it’s generally okay to bring them (especially since they do grooming and vaxx services).
Hate going to Walmart and seeing actual shit on the floor because some Karen wanted to bring her fucking designer Chihuahua into the store and doesn’t clean up after it.
Maybe burnings as well
Pets are the new babies, plants are the new pets and airfryers are the new plants
Babies ate the new “moving to california to become an actres”
Damn i haven’t watered my airfryer once since i got it, poor thing
It’s a desert plant: you water it, it dies. It evolved to pull the water from the air.
Remember that it doesn’t take the water in liquid form, pellets only.
Water pellets is a bunch of tiny bottles of water i assume?
I was very tired when I posted that and skipped over the air part. By pellets I meant little ice cubes
Babies ate the new “moving to california to become an actres”
Those monsters!
I genuinely adore dogs and love seeing them anywhere I am! But places that sell and prepare food should be off-limits (except for service animals, of course. Their accessibility outweighs these concerns). Some people have super sensitive allergies, just pet dander/hairs floating through the air can be irritating or worse. Some people have a crippling fear of dogs, maybe for a reason? Pets may be fine 99% of the time around family/friends, but they’re still animals. Unlike service animals, they haven’t been tested or screened for emergency situations or stress-tested. They can and do snap, and there’s no way to know if it will happen. When it does, it’s lose/lose/lose: pain & suffering, lawsuits, and almost certainly a loving pet being euthanized.
Fully agree. It’s just not sanitary either, and I know everyone will assume I mean their dog is dirty. I mean that any animal brings unknown elements into a place that makes food. One good shake of a wet dog and you have dirt and debris flying around people eating, and you’re exactly right things like that may affect others way more even if it doesn’t affect you.
I’m okay with dogs in places like breweries, it’s still a risk but as long as there is plenty of space it’s probably fine. Food though adds a whole other element that I don’t think they belong in.
I work in hospitality and while all your points are valid I do wish there was a solution that allowed a little wiggle room accounting for good communication and personal responsibility.
There area where I live has dozens of small bars and pubs and my issue with every single place accommodating every possible allergic reaction and preference is that they can kind of end up samey. I’m not saying it’s realistic but I don’t think it’d be a bad thing for Pub A to say Dogs are fine but no kids please as long as Pub B says Kids are great but no dogs and Pub C can say No kids or dogs but weird sex shit is fine. A man can dream!
Man, you just made me sad by remembering that my local Pub D that didn’t give a shit about kids, dogs, or weird sex shit is closing down. Sucks cuz it’s the only openly LGBTQ+ bar in the area that I’m aware of.
I do agree with you. While the health concerns with dogs are valid, I do feel like there should be some designated dog friendly places. It can get really difficult to arrange your schedule around so that the dog doesn’t stay at home for too long. I live with my mom and my boyfriend, and we almost never go places with the 3 of us as a group.
Also, health issues aside, as far as being disruptive, I feel like kids can be just as disruptive. With so many businesses disallowing dogs, it can sometimes feel like you’re almost being punished for having a dog.
There is the canine good citizen test that many people do with their dogs.
many
And what about all the rest? How can anyone know that human is a good human and that human is a bad human?
Edit: spelling
Which means nothing when it comes to places that serve and sell food as the issue is the fecal bacterial cultures that spread when dogs lick their butts and then lick their feet as well as any allergy concerns.
Your dog could be the best behaved dog in the world and they still can’t get around biological realities.
Let me preface this by first saying I agree that dogs should generally not be allowed in food serving establishments because their hair goes everywhere and nobody likes eating dog hair.
With that said though, I have never once seen my dog lick his own butt. What on earth are other people’s dogs doing?! The closest my dog has gotten to licking his butt is licking around his genitalia, which I grant you is unclean as well, but he’s fluffy and keeps the hair between his legs clean and un-matted. But butt licking?!
Now here’s where I get down voted to hell, but I have to play devil’s advocate lol. I would argue that kids are a MUCH larger vector of bacteria and viruses that are of concern to the average adult human than any dog. Dogs are gross, sure, but I’ll take a lick from a strange dog over a strange toddler’s sticky hands on me!
We should keep dogs out of food places, but mostly cause hair and allergies - if we’re going to ban beings due to their gross factor though that list should be much longer (toddlers, homeless, anyone that didn’t wash their hands after using the restroom…)
I guess I’d better not let my dog in the kitchen or dining area at home.
You germaphobes are fun.
It’s not germ-phobic, it’s biology. And you shouldn’t let your dog on counters or tables for sanitary purposes.
I love dogs. I love looking at them. I love playing with them. Dogs are the best.
But don’t fucking bring your dog…
People are scared of dogs. People are allergic to dogs.
I know you love your dog, I probably love your dog too but I don’t think I should bring my dog anywhere indoors and/or crowded and neither should you.
Obviously!!! If your dog is a service dog, I am not talking about you and your dog. You just make me sad because I can’t play with your dog :( even tho they are such a good boy/girl…
You can ask people with service dogs if it’s ok to pet and most times they are fine with that, the issue is with people running up and petting the dog without asking. Service dogs are very well behaved and usually love a good head pat
Then it’s likely not a service dog, but an emotional support animal. There is a MASSIVE difference, and people treat them like they are the same.
This is an all states thing not just CA. Your dog does not belong at the grocery store
Should come to Texas where they’ll bring in dogs to the grocery store and they act like it’s everyone’s fault but their own when someone gets upset at dogshit in the aisle.
Animals don’t belong in places that sell food. Animals don’t belong in office supply stores. Animals don’t belong in post offices. Animals don’t belong in any business other than a vet’s office or pet supply store that specifically allows them.
If you can’t train your animal to be home alone long enough for you to run some errands, then you shouldn’t own a pet.
There are some stores, like Home Depot, Home Goods, and Michael’s (in the US), that are historically pet friendly. Leashed and good manners only of course, but it’s great for socializing a pet and making an employee’s day with cute puppies to break up the retail monotony.
A store that explicitly states service animals only, or has no sign, is not appropriate.
These policies work out for the business as well, especially when the store shares a plaza with a pet supply place.
People bringing their dogs to store A might see store B and want to shop there, too. If store B bans pets, that means people either have to bring their dogs home and come back (which is a pain, and people might not return at all), or leave the dogs in their car (which is dangerous or even illegal.) Smart business people don’t want people leaving without shopping, and people with any sense of decency don’t want dogs left in cars.
So when store B explicitly permits people to bring their pets, people can go straight there from Store A without worry. Customers are happy, dogs are happy, business people are happy, and no pets have to suffer in a locked vehicle.
Only the allergics and phobics aren’t, but who cares… /s
Animals don’t belong in post offices
Then how do you mail the animal?
What about service dogs?
Not to be pedantic but we fall under the classification of Animals. And anywhere they allow children 5 and under I’m bringing my pet to. Children are 100 times worse than the worst behaved pet
These rules seem arbitrary and capricious. If the dog is well-trained, the owner is able to meet its needs on the go, and nobody else is explicitly being bothered, there’s no compelling reason to block it from any of these establishments.
All of the above hold true for therapy animals, for instance. This isn’t about the animal being well-trained, it is about both the pet and the person to be comfortable and happy, without impinging on the comfort and happiness of others. Locking well-behaved pets out of all of the above establishments does nothing to improve your comfort or happiness. It only serves to inconvenience others.
Well no, the intent is not to inconvenience others, but to not inconvenience yourself.
I love animals. Dogs, cats, rabbits, whatever. Love them all. I’m highly allergic to most of them though.
As a customer of an establishment, why do I need to deal with the animal that belongs to another customer of the establishment? And I’m not being a jerk. I’m not complaining or making a fuss, but if I’m trying to buy toilet paper I shouldn’t need to worry about hair, dander, or if somebody’s dog is well behaved or not. I am the one being inconvenienced, and there doesn’t seem to be a good reason for it.
That goes to the point of the comment you replied to. And to your point, if nobody else is being bothered… Are they checking if others are being bothered? Usually not. That’s a generalization but I can say in my experience it’s true more often than not (and I notice when it is). I’m not saying to ban pets in stores, but it should not be the norm and expect others to just deal with it.
Barring animals from places that sell food is not arbitrary and capricious, it’s a safety issue.
How many people have suffered physical harm from ordering food adjacent to a service animal?
There is a difference between a pet and a service animal…
Am I google now?
I love dogs. All dogs. Love them to death.
My fucking mom just lets her little dog go wherever it wants and she almost never has it on a leash. I keep telling her that something is going to go wrong and it will be her fault because she wasn’t on a leash, it my mom doesn’t seem concerned because she has her dog trained fairly well. And to be fair she does come and stay on command, but I still just find it irresponsible to have a dog in public without a leash.
Your mom is a problem dog owner. When something inevitably happens, she’ll blame everyone but herself, because she sees the dog as an extension of herself and her “freedom,” instead of being responsible for a living thing, in a society.
Trash human trait.
Even though she’s my mother I tend to agree. It’s selfish and stupid. Thankfully it’s pretty much the only thing she’s bad about. So I guess it could be much worse. Still. Bothers me greatly and time we are out and about with her dog.
Aside from Elijah Wood, no one gets to pick their parents
…is this is a north joke? I haven’t thought about that movie since I saw it as a kid lmao.
One of the places I grew up people would do this with their tiny dogs. Every family had a story of the time a hawk/eagle would make off with one of their tiny dogs. Still didn’t use leashes or watch their dogs tho 🤷♀️
Edit: just remembered we lived near a canyon too with a trail along the top edge. People’s unleashed dogs would chase after something and go flying off the cliff. Rescue helicopters would train for people by rescuing (or usually just retrieving the body of) all the dogs
Basically they’re feeding the local raptor population with their dogs, like that story about coyotes and rescue cats.
My brother’s dog Frankie was like that. Coming when called by name didn’t stop the car that hit Frankie when he darted into the road. RIP
This is probably what will happen and when it does I don’t know how I’m gonna keep my mouth shut.
I had my dog off lease in an empty place, a random old lady come up and gets scared shitless, starts screaming. Startled my dog who immediately went up to check up on her.
Chaos ensued. In every case it’s always the dog owners fault, why can’t we blame the kids like other humans do.
You just described a story where you were being irresponsible, just so you know!
Ofc
I just returned to Canada after spending some months in Belgium. The first couple of times I saw dogs in restaurants and cafés, I was slightly weirded out. But after seeing it happen repeatedly with nobody ever even batting an eye I realized it was totally normal there. And not once did I ever see a dog cause a problem or make any excessive noise. In the Netherlands as well.
Not a dog owner myself.
A lot of Europe is like this and I think part of the difference is social expectation with dogs. Because it’s more normal for dogs to go places, and less normal to have private yards at your home for your dog to spend time in, people in Europe tend to spend more time training their dogs to be good members of society because they basically have to. If you have to walk your dog multiple times a day for potty instead of letting it into the back yard, you’re probably more likely to make sure your dog is leash trained properly.
I also think the USA (and Canada to some extent as you’ve kind of adopted many of our values, for good or ill) are more individualistic than many European countries. In America we train our pets because WE want them trained, not because of societal expectations about dog ownership. It’s truly telling when you walk a dog that is properly leash trained and get compliments about how well trained your dog is. That a dog can walk on leash without pulling is the exception, not the norm. (This happened yesterday to me, just walking around a park path.) It’s depressing. American individualism insists, “I don’t need to train my dog, he’s perfect being the cute little terrorist that he is, and if you don’t like it, that’s your problem.” As a result, dogs aren’t allowed most places in the US because entitled dog owners are the norm, not the minority. I love dogs, and I love taking my dog places, but if I owned a business of any kind I wouldn’t allow dogs because it’s not worth the headache here.
I don’t live in Cali, but I was at a diner yesterday and some woman had her dog in one of the booths. Clearly not a service animal, no vest or anything. You know what ruins a pretty quick? Dog hair in your food… Especially if it’s not your dog.
I can top that. I saw a dog at a Korean barbecue restaurant. The ones that serve raw meat for you to cook at your table. Except this restaurant did it buffet style. I never went back.
I saw a dog at a Korean barbeque restaurant.
The only problem I’ve had with other dog owners in California or anywhere else, is owners who don’t pick up their dog’s shit. I see people bring dogs into stores all the time, they’re always fine, I never see problems with that.
Now when I step 6-inches off a popular trail to take a picture of a popular view and step in piles of dog feces that people don’t bother to clean because it’s technically not someone’s yard, that’s when I start to wonder if domestication was a good idea. (Of humans that is.)
It’s interesting to see that the dog situation is getting out of control in other places. I thought it was only my country where people have been becoming crazier and crazier about dogs.
Stupid sexy legs
Here in colombia pretty much all stores allow pets. I’ve never seen someone’s leg humped though. The worst i’ve seen peoples dogs act is barking at each other.
